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Post by tommy on Mar 13, 2013 16:07:50 GMT
uk.news.yahoo.com/huhne-mocked-prison-officer-085041466.html#EnnudlzTwo nights ago was this realy worthy headline news in the uk with all thats going on in the world or was it just tat worthy of a trashy magazine dishing the dirt on the rich and famous. A ten year old speeding ticket dodge, a vindictive ex wife and now we re all paying taxes to keep a non dangerous couple off the streets and i only have to walk my local town to see people who would be more suited to being behind bars. Community service would have been far more apt and i guess summer madness came early this year !
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Post by robmac on Mar 13, 2013 16:11:09 GMT
In reality they will only actually serve a couple of weeks. I say hit 'em where it hurts - in the pocket!
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Post by Firefox on Mar 13, 2013 16:21:53 GMT
Agreed. Huhne is not dangerous and it's costing us more money to lock him up, as both him and Pryce will be vulnerable prisoners and need to be segregated.
They should have had a large fine and a very small sentence, if one at all.
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Post by Pollik on Mar 13, 2013 19:07:50 GMT
Perverting the course of justice is regarded as a very serious crime, as is perjury. There are lots of sentences handed down with which I disagree with vehemently, but this is not one them. I saw a report about 30 minutes ago that the sentencing is to be looked at to see if it was unduly lenient. Another report says that Pryce is "frail" - funny how people get ill when they are finally caught or sentenced.
For me, they committed the offence in the cold light of day - it wasn't a moment's impulse - and, as two intelligent people, followed it through. I can't even think "There but for the grace of god....", because it would simply not occur to me to do what they did. And never, never, never would I ask someone I loved to take the rap for me. If I mess up (and I have, couple of times), then it is my responsibility. No one else's.
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Post by robmac on Mar 13, 2013 20:10:12 GMT
The only reason I disagree with this sentence is that it is not harsh enough, a couple of weeks in prison and a tag for a few months is nothing really, if they were to serve the whole sentence then fair enough.
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Post by donkeytoo on Mar 13, 2013 20:39:38 GMT
Agreed. Huhne is not dangerous and it's costing us more money to lock him up, as both him and Pryce will be vulnerable prisoners and need to be segregated. They should have had a large fine and a very small sentence, if one at all. They should bring in chain working gangs and clean up our motorways , dig dranage ditches etc., Oh i forgot that would be against their constitutional rights, their human rights, the elf and safety laws etc., etc., etc. In my mind someone who goes against our constitutional laws have no rights whatsoever and should never be treated with anything except punishment, which should fit the crime. If someone steals from me I should be alowed to punish that person, and in public.
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Post by Pollik on Mar 13, 2013 21:40:48 GMT
I used to agree with you, Donkey, until I found out how it works in the USA, which has by a long way the largest prison population per capita in the world, at 0.75% of the population, or 2 million, or nearly one in every hundred people un the USA. One quarter of the global prison population is incarcerated in the USA. One in three of all black man in the USA can expect to serve a prison sentence in their lifetime.
On prison labour:
(http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289)
All that slave labour - where is the incentive for the government to reduce the population? How can commercial companies compete with free labour?
I find that rather scarey
But, then again, part of me thinks, yeah, they should do something useful in there.
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Post by robmac on Mar 13, 2013 21:47:41 GMT
I suggested once before, the Govt. have a free work force who could pay for their keep. Those who are fit enough could be pedalling machines to produce electricity for the national grid, instead of sentencing them to 6 months, sentence them to produce say 6 KiloWatts (or whatever would fill eight hours a day pedalling over 6 months). They then don't get out until they have finished!
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Post by n brown on Mar 14, 2013 8:13:37 GMT
this idiot was in a position of trust and expected to conduct himself with honesty and openess,just as priests and teachers are expected to act as sorrogate parents to children in their care. breaking this trust should be punished much more severely as an example to others. in real life of course he'll do a few weeks in an open prison and then come and write a book about his harrowing experiences,like that paragon of smugness.the sainted ''Lord'' Archer
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Post by tommy on Mar 14, 2013 9:00:33 GMT
perverting the course of justice takes place in every court every day by prosecution and defence with some of the "wild" evidence and creative reality presented if you ve ever watched the pantomime of court, and as far as these people being in a responsible position -
was it not our MP s flipping there houses and making gross profits and fiddling expenses to the tune of thousands ?
A little more worrying than a speeding dodge some 10 years ago and only a few token heads rolled and the house flipping was never punished.
Seems the press play a big part in making some stories go away and highlighting others and were quite prepared to "saint" a certain top of the pops guy and like it or not there doesnt seem to be much justice in "justice" when they are involved at this level.
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Post by Firefox on Mar 14, 2013 10:46:43 GMT
I still think rehabilitation and equipping offenders with skills to earn an honest living is important. This should be done on an individual basis. They could mix three days of pedalling or chain gangs with three of learning. If all you give them is rock crushing, they will have nothing to go back to except breaking into houses and that will cost more in the long run.
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