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Post by slider on Nov 21, 2014 23:16:42 GMT
I didn't know there was a do down south, but in any case I will go up North to drop in on the family on the way. Hope you do come Vern would be nice to meet up again and perhaps you could give me some tips on the guitar. Just bought one haven't played for a fare while so any advise would be good.
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Post by Firefox on Nov 22, 2014 0:59:26 GMT
Yes bring it along and we can have a go! Chords of C, G, F, D, Aminor, and E minor will get you a long way. Even if you can only play the bass note you can still join in. I think music is all about taking part and making some sound, even if it isn't quite the right one. Quick refresher:
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Post by slider on Nov 22, 2014 22:12:41 GMT
Yes bring it along and we can have a go! Chords of C, G, F, D, Aminor, and E minor will get you a long way. Even if you can only play the bass note you can still join in. I think music is all about taking part and making some sound, even if it isn't quite the right one. Quick refresher: Cheers Vern agree with you joining in is fun but probably won't make the right sound yet need to get my fingers harden of first only done about 4 hours practice so far and as you can guess very sore hands far to soft, but will press on with it.
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Post by gaz on Nov 22, 2014 22:38:32 GMT
Cheers Vern agree with you joining in is fun but probably won't make the right sound yet need to get my fingers harden of first only done about 4 hours practice so far and as you can guess very sore hands far to soft, but will press on with it. can sympathize with you there buddy ...bloody hurts but youve got keep playing thru it no pain no gain
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Post by slider on Nov 22, 2014 23:36:35 GMT
Thanks Gaz will do, at the moment looking at 2 one hour slots a day hoping after a couple of weeks will be able to do more.
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Post by gaz on Nov 23, 2014 9:25:27 GMT
if we decide to go i'll fetch my guitar......then it's a race to see who's fingers bleed lol
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Post by campervanannie on Nov 23, 2014 10:15:37 GMT
I'll bring the first aid kit then, though I won't be administering it as I faint at the sight of blood even when its not my blood.
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Post by rebbyvid on Nov 24, 2014 20:41:58 GMT
Cheers Vern agree with you joining in is fun but probably won't make the right sound yet need to get my fingers harden of first only done about 4 hours practice so far and as you can guess very sore hands far to soft, but will press on with it. can sympathize with you there buddy ...bloody hurts but youve got keep playing thru it no pain no gain im in the same boat so could be a few out of tune ;-)
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Post by molly2 on Nov 25, 2014 14:48:17 GMT
Dose anyone wants to put a play practice list together? check out” bob tulip “on you tube lots of easy songs with chords. Blayden races . whisky in the jar .fore ever young ,sloop john b, loads of easy Dylan.
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Post by Firefox on Nov 25, 2014 17:24:11 GMT
Sloop John B (Trad) (key of C), House of the Rising Sun (Animals) (key of A Minor), Hallelujah (Cohen) (key of C), Freight Train (Cotton)(key of C), Let it be (Beatles) (key of C) You get the idea ... anything done in the key of C to keep it simple I'll check out Blayden, and Forever young etc but will probably transpose them to C if they are not already in C, so be warned Chords needed for the the key of C: C, G, F, and Aminor
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Post by Firefox on Nov 26, 2014 14:52:06 GMT
Streets of London (Ralph McTell) (key of C)
INTRO:
C G Am Em
F C G C
(x4 each)
C G Am Em Have you seen the old man, in the closed-down market F C D G Kicking up the papers, with his worn-out shoes? C G Am Em In his eyes you see no pride, and held loosely by his side F C G C yesterday's papers, telling yesterday's news
CHORUS:
F Em C- G7-Am So how can you tell me, you're lo-ne-ly D D G (x2) .... G7 (x2)... and say for you that the sun don't shine? C G Am Em Let me take you by the hand, and lead you through the streets of London F C G C I'll show you something, to make you change your mind
(Chords/strums roughly x4 each apart from C - G7 - Am bit, when 1x each and "shine" when 2x each)
Have you seen the old gal, who walks the streets of London dirt in her hair, and her clothing in rags? She's no time for talking, she just keeps right on walking Carrying her home, in two carrier bags
Repeat Chorus
And in the all-night cafe, at a quarter past eleven same old man sitting there, all on his own Looking at the world, over the rim of his tea-cup Each cup lasts an hour, then he wanders home alone
Repeat Chorus
And have you seen the old man, outside the seaman's mission? His memory's fading, with those medal ribbons that he wears And in our winter city, the rain cries little pity For one more forgotten hero, and a world that doesn't care
Repeat Chorus
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Post by slider on Dec 1, 2014 22:45:17 GMT
This is good folks so many to choose from. May be we should have a favourite song thread only trouble is deciding which one.
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Post by slider on Dec 1, 2014 22:50:38 GMT
Streets of London (Ralph McTell) (key of C) INTRO:
C G Am Em
F C G C
(x4 each)
C G Am Em Have you seen the old man, in the closed-down market F C D G Kicking up the papers, with his worn-out shoes? C G Am Em In his eyes you see no pride, and held loosely by his side F C G C yesterday's papers, telling yesterday's news
CHORUS:
F Em C- G7-Am So how can you tell me, you're lo-ne-ly D D G (x2) .... G7 (x2)... and say for you that the sun don't shine? C G Am Em Let me take you by the hand, and lead you through the streets of London F C G C I'll show you something, to make you change your mind
(Chords/strums roughly x4 each apart from C - G7 - Am bit, when 1x each and "shine" when 2x each)
Have you seen the old gal, who walks the streets of London dirt in her hair, and her clothing in rags? She's no time for talking, she just keeps right on walking Carrying her home, in two carrier bags
Repeat Chorus
And in the all-night cafe, at a quarter past eleven same old man sitting there, all on his own Looking at the world, over the rim of his tea-cup Each cup lasts an hour, then he wanders home alone
Repeat Chorus
And have you seen the old man, outside the seaman's mission? His memory's fading, with those medal ribbons that he wears And in our winter city, the rain cries little pity For one more forgotten hero, and a world that doesn't care
Repeat Chorus Love this one Vern makes you wish for a good singing voice.
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Post by Firefox on Dec 2, 2014 1:54:25 GMT
Cool It's quite a versatile song. One can just do a single strum per bar if it's difficult to strum, or I have just developed a finger/travis picking version based on how Ralph did the original. It's not exactly the same as his (a lot easier) but it's kind of got most of the melody in the top picking which is good for me as I'm always forgetting some of the melody in this, and it makes me remember if the guitar is playing it. I'll tab it out and post the tabs if anyone wants to have a go at it! www.youtube.com/watch?v=COkya7N3pB8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 9:05:24 GMT
I think Ralph McTell is guest on Radio 2 Folk Show this week, 7pm Wed
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Post by Firefox on Dec 2, 2014 9:24:10 GMT
Thanks for the heads up, I'll try to catch that. Yes he is still going strong. Must be nearly 70 now! He still tours a lot and writes new stuff by all accounts. There is a good recentish interview with him here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWomXklfv8
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Post by slider on Dec 7, 2014 23:29:24 GMT
Cool It's quite a versatile song. One can just do a single strum per bar if it's difficult to strum, or I have just developed a finger/travis picking version based on how Ralph did the original. It's not exactly the same as his (a lot easier) but it's kind of got most of the melody in the top picking which is good for me as I'm always forgetting some of the melody in this, and it makes me remember if the guitar is playing it. I'll tab it out and post the tabs if anyone wants to have a go at it! www.youtube.com/watch?v=COkya7N3pB8 cheers Vern would fancy a go if you post the tabs and thanks for the link Vern this song still brings a tear to my eye
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Post by Firefox on Dec 11, 2014 23:17:19 GMT
Here is my guitar tab for finger picking "Streets of London" It is meant to be as easy as possible while keeping most of the tune in the picking. I also put the clef notes on in case someone wants to play violin or keyboard. Makes it a bit more complicated looking, but TAB is really easy and it sounds good.... just use the TAB if you are doing the guitar. I only did the verse so far - chorus to come!
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Post by goldfish on Dec 12, 2014 15:30:46 GMT
Not able to make the meet but just like to express my thanks to Vern who got me started playing the quitar, now really enjoy playing still trying but keeps me sane in those quiet dark nights Highly recommend if you never play before. Vern is an excellent teacher. keeps the Alzheimer at bay a bit longer too . Can't be bad
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Post by slider on Dec 13, 2014 0:09:36 GMT
Thanks Vern I will have a go.
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Post by Firefox on Dec 14, 2014 19:48:14 GMT
Not able to make the meet but just like to express my thanks to Vern who got me started playing the quitar, now really enjoy playing still trying but keeps me sane in those quiet dark nights Highly recommend if you never play before. Vern is an excellent teacher. keeps the Alzheimer at bay a bit longer too . Can't be bad Thanks goldfish ... I wish I could have come on the second Scoltland tour with and Sandy and Molly2 as we could have tried some more stuff together. I remember you playing Romance in E on guitar at Ardossan and it was better than I can do espec on middle section in Emajor - I really need to work on that bit! But like you say, guitar or most instruments are brilliant for memory work, finger coordination and mental stimulation. Music does require a bit of work in everyone's own time to be more confident. Even banging bongos to your fave songs and singing along will improve your skills and the more one does it, the better one gets. I'm really looking forward to retiring and spending more time just practicing 2-3 hours a day.
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Post by RoaminRog on Dec 19, 2014 16:39:47 GMT
Hi Vernon, just sat here, before I have to go to work, painfully trying to strum 'Streets of London' and I was just wondering if there is a mistake in the chorus. On the first line of the chorus, at the word 'lonely' it specifies C-G7-Am. Could it be that this should read G-G7-Am or am I turning into a daft old fart?
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Post by Firefox on Dec 19, 2014 18:46:28 GMT
Yes well spotted - there is variation between different interpretations. I think I got those chords from ultimate guitar tabs or somewhere, and that sequence works, but isn't best.
G - G7 - Amin sounds better- this is how I have it in the finger picking version of which I will post the chorus tonight.
Strictly it is actually (on my picking version):
3 1 0 x x 3 ................... = G with a C note thrown in! (is it G sus 4 ??!! )
1 0 0 x x 3 ................... = G7 proper
0 1 2 2 x x ................... = E/Amin (ie A minor with an E in the bass instead of an A)
I know it may sound a bit tricky - but they are really easy to play - give those 3 a go and you see it sounds exactly right - well to my ear anyway!!
If you are just strumming, I think just G - G7 - Aminor is probably best
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Post by Firefox on Dec 19, 2014 22:09:07 GMT
Here's the chorus for the finger picking TAB You may notice that the music for the second part of the chorus is exactly the same as the second part of the verse, so you only need to learn a little bit more to get the chorus down. I will be taking out all the treble clef and lyrics so you have just the TAB as well to make it easier to read, but I gave the music too above so someone could play violin or piano (just add a couple bass octave notes for keyboard). It is really simple but it does capture most of the tune and feel of the original. I'll be adding the 4 bars of fill Ralph plays between versus in an easy style (It just goes C - G - Am - G7 ) Also an alternative to the fill bar between "shine" and "let me take you" The one above is a walk down to the C chord, but Ralph actually plays a walk up if you listen to the original - it's more complicated but it sounds really good so I'll see if I can work out an easy version of what he does.
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Post by Firefox on Dec 19, 2014 23:00:17 GMT
Here's the guitar TAB for Streets of London with the treble clef removed and all on one sheet. You'll have to check back on the clef to get the rhythm, there wasn't space to put it on the TAB. But it's 4 beats in a bar and most bars have the same rhythm and the same finger picking too. You'll see the emphasis is on the top string (ring finger) as you are basically playing out much of the melody on that string and adding some rhythm and bass below with thumb and index and middle. If you haven't given finger picking a go before, and just played chords, give this a try. It may be slow at first, but as you build up speed, you'll hear the melody start to jump out at you.
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Post by molly2 on Dec 20, 2014 15:55:09 GMT
Hi strummrs easy way to learn streets of London watch bob tulip on you tube with chords and lyrics, 4-4 pick your own strumming patern or picking style. Then we will all be singing from the same hymn sheet. Bazz
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Post by Firefox on Dec 20, 2014 16:01:14 GMT
This is quite a versatile tune and the strumming and picking together should sound good!
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