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Post by Firefox on Oct 15, 2013 13:48:05 GMT
My answer up to about £12 but only on occasion.
I have only used 3 sites this year. Ullapool £11, Lyndon Top £6, and Radwell £4. basic facilities only apart from Ullapool which had dishwash, showers and laundry.
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Post by kangooroo on Oct 15, 2013 14:01:55 GMT
About £7 but I only use sites when I can't last any longer without a hot shower and haven't used any sites at all this year.
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Post by goldfish on Oct 15, 2013 15:30:46 GMT
Not been to any uk campsites, then I have only been mhoming 3years, up to around 20 euros in Europe if I have to refresh facilities. Been to a few holiday sites set up by c & c club which I joined last year, never paid more than 6/7 pounds for me they were quite good value.
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Post by Pollik on Oct 15, 2013 16:03:30 GMT
Probably about £10 to £12 - depends how desperate I was.
I used a three or four CLs earlier in the year, but nothing since July.
I didn't like coming back to England/Wales after Scotland. I have got used to stopping just about anywhere without a second thought. In England, I find myself wondering if I really want to take the risk of flouting the prohibition signs (Llangors Common, tonight). I need hassle free at the moment, I think.
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Post by X on Oct 15, 2013 16:16:39 GMT
A quid if that was for the week ? Managed 10 days in Wales for exactly that and that was for parking in a town ! We spent in local shops and ate out a lot so yes we did spend money just not on something we do not want or need ! Did pay at Hereford meet but that went to a rowing club so happy with that also one show this year . The high season prices now are unbelievable on some sites up around £60.00 per night !
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Oct 15, 2013 17:21:13 GMT
Funnily enough, I've been to as many campsites in the last fortnight than in the last 2 years prev.! Whitwell Station (£5 a night, with Loos) & Lyndon Top (£6 p/n) & Radwell's coming up!......For those sort of prices, it's nice to relax, knowing that a 'clipboard' ain't gonna be a-knocking on the door! Most I've paid was £15 p/n (reduced!) for 'Transitmania' at Billing Aquadrome last Year:- Good fun 'cos the kids liked the Funfair etc. but not My cup of chai as were n't just the Transit Crowd packed on site!!! Oh, there was a £12 p/n 5-van site We went to last December on the Isle of Sheppey, but I thought that was fair value 'cos of a well-converted Shower/Loo/Lounge/Kitchen (was a Static Caravan) with Gas Fire & (V.)Hot water, plus a nice covered area with big fire-pit/bbq & stack of wood!!
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Post by kangooroo on Oct 15, 2013 17:58:17 GMT
In England, I find myself wondering if I really want to take the risk of flouting the prohibition signs (Llangors Common, tonight). I need hassle free at the moment, I think. A ranger patrols Llangorse at night and moves on campers (understandable with 2 camp sites on the common!) so I'd park somewhere else. We've arrived there before 5am (for canoeing - we have permits) and he's around even then so don't expect a full or undisturbed night. I'd move on somewhere else - eg to the far end of Talybont dam or further on towards the reservoirs and you'll be fine there all night.
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Post by Pollik on Oct 15, 2013 18:23:47 GMT
Thanks Karen.
The presence of nearby campsites shouldn't really matter. I wonder what the legal situation is. As I recall, it is legal to park on grass providing you are less than 50ft (I think it is 50) from the road (unless signs prohibit it)...I might have tried if my van wasn't so heavy.
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Post by kangooroo on Oct 15, 2013 18:49:48 GMT
Thanks Karen. The presence of nearby campsites shouldn't really matter. I wonder what the legal situation is. As I recall, it is legal to park on grass providing you are less than 50ft (I think it is 50) from the road (unless signs prohibit it)...I might have tried if my van wasn't so heavy. Camping isn't permitted on the Common and a resident ranger patrols. Possibly the commoners have the right to prohibit camping on the land or maybe it's now part of the BBNP? I've never looked into it because I've never had any need to park there despite camping in the area most weeks throughout the year. There are so many other places to camp nearby without any disturbance and within a very small radius so there's really no need to flout the Llangorse signs. The ground is also very soft so you wouldn't want to drive a heavy van on it - we routinely carry rope to tow out cars which have got stuck. We'll possibly be there this weekend so I'll have a look at the land and signs, but won't be camping there.
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Oct 15, 2013 21:31:47 GMT
Only paid once in the UK,that was six pounds.Wouldn't make a habit of it though,as prefer wilding.
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Post by Pollik on Oct 16, 2013 7:35:44 GMT
Camping isn't permitted on the Common and a resident ranger patrols. Possibly the commoners have the right to prohibit camping on the land or maybe it's now part of the BBNP? I've never looked into it because I've never had any need to park there despite camping in the area most weeks throughout the year. There are so many other places to camp nearby without any disturbance and within a very small radius so there's really no need to flout the Llangorse signs. The ground is also very soft so you wouldn't want to drive a heavy van on it - we routinely carry rope to tow out cars which have got stuck. We'll possibly be there this weekend so I'll have a look at the land and signs, but won't be camping there. I know many instances, around the UK, where unenforceable signs have been erected by councils as a deterrent and I can't help thinking that public bodies should not be indulging in misleading tactics. One of the signs there is undersigned by Powys Council and two are not signed at all, not even by the parish council or by park authorities. If private contractors want to police private car parks, they are required by law to erect conspicuous signage warning of the consequences of flouting the prohibition signs, eg clamping, tow away, fine. Like you, I tend to respect signs if I know of another non-main road site nearby, say within five miles. I don't know the area as well as you, but I hadn't seen anything on my way to the common, and nothing showed up on my sat nav. I think was also probably cranky having driven nearly 15 miles on a very tight, narrow road that I really shouldn't have taken (it took me about an hour) and I just wanted to STOP...which is my fault, of course, but it might explain my (over)reaction. Unfortunately, I am also cursed with a high Indignation Index...I react badly to abuse of authority...I can remember both days when the attitude was cemented into me, quite apart from my other non-conforming issues which were always going to bring me into conflict. I think I am feeling a bit serious, this morning - sorry.
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Post by kangooroo on Oct 16, 2013 11:49:51 GMT
Like you, I tend to respect signs if I know of another non-main road site nearby, say within five miles. I don't know the area as well as you, but I hadn't seen anything on my way to the common, and nothing showed up on my sat nav. If we go at the weekend (dependent on weather) then I'll look at the signs. In the meantime, a better spot would be either end of the Talybont dam - either by the road near the inevitable semi-fixture ice cream van or at the further end of the dam: goo.gl/maps/agdoUAlternatively, you could continue along the lane beside Talybont Reservoir to the car park to Upper Neuadd Reservoir. En route, you'll pass a potential 3-4 other off-road spots with good stone tracks suitable for your large van. They're all quiet spots, tried and tested and seldom patrolled but if a ranger does visit, it's highly unlikely you'll be moved on. I never have been in +10 years. Just one proviso, the Neuadd Reservoirs parking area can very occasionally attract the ghetto blasters on Friday/Saturday nights but this is mostly in the school summer holls. Another option would be to park off-road in the parking area beside Pontsticill Reservior which is another good and quiet overnight spot.
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Post by kangooroo on Nov 9, 2013 14:13:12 GMT
I popped along to Llangorse on Wednesday and looked at the signs which state Camping on the Common is prohibited by local byelaw and quoted the relevant legislation. The land is subject to a Land Management Plan for the area which is part of the BBNP but owned by the Llangorse Commons Conservators, it seems.
You wouldn't want to visit at the moment - the site and lake are flooded and the grass under floodwater!
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Post by Pollik on Nov 9, 2013 21:04:19 GMT
Oh, OK...none of the three signs that I saw looked very official at all. Even the one on the toilet block was only saying Powys Council and the two by the boat lake could have been knocked up in someone's shed.
At the moment, my van is having some work done, so I am not wilding just now, anyway.
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Post by X on Nov 9, 2013 22:46:16 GMT
Oh, OK...none of the three signs that I saw looked very official at all. Even the one on the toilet block was only saying Powys Council and the two by the boat lake could have been knocked up in someone's shed. At the moment, my van is having some work done, so I am not wilding just now, anyway. Same old thing are you camping if your motorhome is parked ? How do they prove it ?
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Post by kangooroo on Nov 9, 2013 23:10:42 GMT
Oh, OK...none of the three signs that I saw looked very official at all. Even the one on the toilet block was only saying Powys Council and the two by the boat lake could have been knocked up in someone's shed. At the moment, my van is having some work done, so I am not wilding just now, anyway. Same old thing are you camping if your motorhome is parked ? How do they prove it ? On Llangorse Common, it would be pretty obvious and the patrolling ranger/warden isn't stupid! There are so many places to easily and freely park close by that, rather than parking on a private land between two campsites, it's not worth upsetting people over and the byelaw contravention is clearly stated.
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Post by X on Nov 9, 2013 23:14:40 GMT
Toooooo many rules ! We all know why rules are made ?
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Post by Mikehanky on Nov 10, 2013 8:42:35 GMT
We keep to rallies cl or ths if away for long time will use site ever 14 days for good clean up washing 10.12 max fee
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Post by Pollik on Nov 10, 2013 8:55:46 GMT
Same old thing are you camping if your motorhome is parked ? How do they prove it ? Another "same old thing" - what is camping? Many parts of Europe (and I have a copy of a spanish document partly supporting this) hold the view that if the vehicle is parked with only its wheels on the ground, with no awnings, windows, steps or other protuding outside the vehicle, then is not camping. It is parked. It doesn't matter what is going on inside the vehicle, anymore than if you parked on a street. I have seen an official at either the National Trust or Forestry Commission (I forget which) acknowledge this, too, in a discussion about the possibility of the organisation allowing overnight parking on this basis.
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Post by cardmaker on Nov 28, 2013 21:49:16 GMT
Er last year just having bouhght Freda our campervan we went to Filey and it was August bank holiday week-end we paid £25.00 per night we stopped for two nights. (Ron still having nightmares) Of course we are better at it now and try to wildcamp instead. We have stayed at some Caravan Club sites with Freda with her not having a loo. The Batmobile has made things easier to wildcamp and only needing an occasional site stopover.
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