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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 10:34:34 GMT
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Post by Firefox on Jan 30, 2013 18:27:26 GMT
Can you post a picture of the fittings on the cooker - may be possible to adapt those to fit a hose going to your 4.5kg bottle. Sorry I got a bit confused over what was needed or could be done.
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Post by n brown on Jan 30, 2013 18:44:28 GMT
i'd like to see what's above that fitting,if its copper pipe or brass,,what size is it ? might be easiest to solder on a bit of pipe and put a hose fitting on it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 19:53:55 GMT
Not sure whose more confused now... both of you (thanks for the replies btw) or me ;-D
There's no desperate rush, I'll wait until the next meet. I 'm just trying to formulate ideas of how to use the various bits and pieces I've got for cooking and heating, and I've got various stoves, heaters and gas bottles, I just need to figure out how to join them all together and make best use of them instead of buying new.
I've found the butane gas canisters (like the cigarette lighter fuel / blow torch gas canisters) for the cheap camping single burner stove at £3.99 for 4 at B&M Bargains, and so as long as I stock up on them in autumn (they don't stock them in the winter) it's not too costly. In winter with cooking and heating, I use one canister per day, in the summer it's about 1 canister every 3 days. I've not found them any cheaper than £1 per canister anywhere else.
As for the other cooker, it's a mountain tent camping compact cooker which uses the standard coleman 250 or 500 propane / butane gas cartridges with a screw valve. I don't use this cooker much, only as an extra burner if cooking and I can't use the storm kettle or have a fire, or if I want hot water really quickly (the first brew of the day if I haven't filled a flask of hot water the night before), or for when it's really really cold and butane alone isn't up to the job. I'll try to remember to get a photo of it tomorrow.
I've got a 4.5kg butane blue gas bottle with the standard low pressure blue regulator and attached to it is the black rubber pipe with the above fitting on the other end. I think the donors used the gas bottle with a bbq, so am wondering if it's a specific attachment for bbqs. The outside of the fitting is a silver metal collar with a thread inside it so it obviously screws into some kind of female counterpart. The collar slides loosely up and down a few mm over the (male) bit with the hole in it, sticking out in the middle, which is made of brass, continues through the collar and out the other end where it sticks into the end of the rubber tube. It's total length is probably about 6cm, with 2 - 3 cm of it sticking into the black tube.
I have 2 empty blue calor 15kg bottles and I think the local garage will allow me to swop at least one of them for a smaller red (propane) bottle for winter use. I know I'll need a red regulator for it. But as the worst of the winter is (hopefully) over now, I can wait until the back end of the summer before having to sort it. Hopefully I'll have my new layout sorted by then and bed, sink and heater in place.
In the photo, the pipe you can see is the black rubber tube which has the blue calor regulator on the other end, which came with the gas bottle (Freegled).
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Post by n brown on Jan 30, 2013 20:03:52 GMT
sounds like the fitting needs cutting off and putting szomewhere in case the other half turns up.havin had black rubber hose break a couple of times,i'd suggest orange reinforced hose,and do you know there's a newish propane regulator that can be screwed on by hand,no more slippy spanner in the dark. i think i paid about 6 quid.can't remember if i said toget 8mm straight and'T' joints from screwfix,about 4 x cheaper than a caravan shop
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 20:06:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 20:15:33 GMT
Thanks Nigel, good point about replacing the black tubing, as it does feel a bit hard and not as flexible so it could be quite old. I'll be buying new orange hose for the heater you passed on to me if I use it, as I might want to store the gas bottle a few feet away from the cooker. Or at least, I don't want to limit myself to having to have the gas bottle right next to the heater, especially if I intend to use the same bottle for both the heater and occasionally for the camping cooker.
It's not a major problem but it's just a bit of a nuisance having to remember to keep a good stock of 2 different types of gas canister, aswell as having a calor gas bottle, and it would just be nice if I could figure a way of running several appliances off one calor gas bottle.
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Post by n brown on Jan 30, 2013 21:00:35 GMT
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Post by Firefox on Jan 31, 2013 2:29:02 GMT
It's not a major problem but it's just a bit of a nuisance having to remember to keep a good stock of 2 different types of gas canister, as well as having a calor gas bottle, and it would just be nice if I could figure a way of running several appliances off one calor gas bottle. You can get brass T pieces to branch out the orange tubing. You simply cut the tubing and force it over the nipples on the T piece and tighten a jubilee clip over it to stop it coming off. This is how I have done my fridge, cooker and propex heater - they all run off the same bottle and all off rubber tube and T pieces. However, this is not the recommended way, it is recommended you do everything in copper pipe with compression fittings and olives. This is more difficult to get leak free for the novice fitter. The rubber and jubilee clips is pretty foolproof to fit. The rubber is fine until there is a big fire. Then it burns though and releases the gas.
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Jan 31, 2013 6:24:24 GMT
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Post by Firefox on Jan 31, 2013 6:57:16 GMT
I used that tape on the screw threads of my Propex to fit on a rubber nipple adapter.
With the compression fittings though, you still have to get the right turn on the nut to compress the olive but not too much!
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