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Post by Firefox on Sept 12, 2014 13:27:54 GMT
What is your prediction?
I am predicting a solid No vote, around 60 No, 40 yes, or 58/42 etc. Screw the polls, I don't think they reflect, with yes voters much more likely to voice, and no voters like Tories, keep it under their hats.
Arguments from Scottish point of view:
Yes - Vote from the heart, romanticism, history.
No - Need to be careful of future currency and finances. Unlikely to be given pound, and if so no control at Westminster. Options: Euro (less control). Own new currency - uncertainty.
Arguments from English and personal point of view:
Yes - Probably England financially better off without Scotland. Barnet formula etc - subsidies - future oil revenues doubtful. Worries about border/trade/currency controls
No - Will retain 40 labour and 11 Lib Dems and 6 SNP MPs. This is a big brake on the margin of future Tory majorities at Westminster.
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Post by billi on Sept 14, 2014 19:03:57 GMT
whatever happens,it is certainly a heated arguement on the dark side at the mo :-)
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Post by jonochap on Sept 14, 2014 19:47:09 GMT
Mmm, currency, we all seem to think they are europe bound, what if they went trans atlantic...scottish dollars and the united states of scot-land (said in a plaid bermuda cigar smoking sort of way) now that would be something to tell...cheap petrol, big cars, strong border If its not broken...I can break it!
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Post by Firefox on Sept 15, 2014 9:25:03 GMT
LOL ... that's an interesting take. Could nip over the border to fill up with gas Mind you, if they don't want Faslane, they'd find themselves festooned with nuclear bases after a union like that!
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Post by robmac on Sept 16, 2014 8:07:13 GMT
I actually now think that it will be a 'Yes' vote. If so, hopefully relations won't be damaged too much.
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Post by n brown on Sept 16, 2014 8:28:56 GMT
bit that annoys me is ,as my wife pointed out-it's like one member of a marriage starts to think about leaving and asks all their friends and relatives to help with the decision-but the other partner gets no say in it .if you know what i mean !
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Post by Oldish Hippy on Sept 16, 2014 10:00:36 GMT
bit that annoys me is ,as my wife pointed out-it's like one member of a marriage starts to think about leaving and asks all their friends and relatives to help with the decision-but the other partner gets no say in it .if you know what i mean ! been there done got the tshirt and the bruises
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Post by Firefox on Sept 16, 2014 10:16:42 GMT
Tricky one if English should have a say. I would say probably not. The outcome would be a nightmare especially if the majority of Scotland said yes and the majority of England says no. England having the the larger population would dominate the right to self determination of the other group.
Some people have likened it to a club where only a member of the club can say if they want to resign. I think it is deeper than this as it affects the nationality of the club in the long run eg British or English... many have feet in both camps, and nationality is a personal thing.
But I'm still predicting a solid no vote.
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Sept 16, 2014 18:12:13 GMT
The Market's with You Vernon:- 'Yes' at 7/2-ish, 'No' at 0.27/1........(Current Betfair Odds) Doubt I'll be Needing to Apply for a New Passport!!!
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Post by Mikehanky on Sept 16, 2014 18:52:39 GMT
if its a yes they will be looking for brickys to put the wall up again soz just my wierd sence of humour god for bid,its a yes vote .
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Post by Firefox on Sept 16, 2014 21:54:50 GMT
Betfair are already paying out to the no betters. It's all over bar the shouting now.
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Post by Firefox on Sept 19, 2014 11:00:52 GMT
It was 55-45 in the end. I expected a bigger No vote, but huge turnouts brought out a lot of young voters and I think that favoured Yes.
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Sept 19, 2014 14:57:49 GMT
So are they still here then??
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Post by Firefox on Sept 19, 2014 16:09:15 GMT
So are they still here then?? Yep, we have to hand over vast extra amounts of our money to them for a few years yet
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