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Post by seanrua on Apr 6, 2014 11:48:26 GMT
Hi, I have a strange question:
Do you think Gripfill would be any good for sticking a loop ( of canvas or anything, really) onto a tent canvas?
My old tent has suffered a bit of storm damage over the winter. I need to fix a loop ( for roping) that has been torn off at the stitching. Stitching is not a strongpoint of mine, so I'm wondering about fixing with gripfill. Aesthetics and appearance are not as important as functionality here. I don't mind a bulge or a blob.
Any thoughts, please?
sean rua.
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Post by n brown on Apr 6, 2014 12:04:51 GMT
hi Sean,gripfill will do it fine.these rivets are great too,worth having around for fixing generally. just poke a hole through the canvas or leather,put the rivet through,rest on a bit of metal,put the cap on and smack it flat with a hammer ! www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/double-cap-leather-rivets
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Post by edina on Apr 6, 2014 12:28:01 GMT
hi Sean,gripfill will do it fine.these rivets are great too,worth having around for fixing generally. just poke a hole through the canvas or leather,put the rivet through,rest on a bit of metal,put the cap on and smack it flat with a hammer ! www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/double-cap-leather-rivetsI've used similar rivets on boat canvases and they make a good strong fixing.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 6, 2014 12:58:08 GMT
hi Sean,gripfill will do it fine.these rivets are great too,worth having around for fixing generally. just poke a hole through the canvas or leather,put the rivet through,rest on a bit of metal,put the cap on and smack it flat with a hammer ! www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/double-cap-leather-rivetsAs a complete aside... I've been looking for something along these lines for use with polypropylene webbing as an alternative to stitching, and preferably with a press tool because I'd need to do a lot, ie several hundred - thousand. Would this work with webbing?
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Post by n brown on Apr 6, 2014 13:42:28 GMT
I've used them on webbing but can't tell you how strong they are.i normally melt a hole through with a hot spike so the webbing doesn't fray
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Post by seanrua on Apr 6, 2014 13:58:05 GMT
Thank you n.brown and All!
I was sure you'd come up trumps. I'll have to decide which method to use. When all is said and done, the job can only be as strong as the host material allows. The main fabric will probably rip next.
sean rua.
ps
I was going to start a new thread elsewhere about the missing plane, but feel lazy and am having conection probs, so here is my prediction ( total guess):
they will NOT find the " black box" in the Indian Ocean.
There is some reasoning, but as it is based on assumption, I'll leave it till later. Obviously, I'm as likely to be wrong as right.
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Post by seanrua on Apr 6, 2014 14:03:07 GMT
Also, re the rivets I suppose I could use the old milk container top trick and incorporate some sort of loop or eye in the top. This has been done with tarps. It's messy and looks cat, but would suit me, possibly.
sean rua.
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Post by n brown on Apr 6, 2014 15:11:31 GMT
I used to fold a small pebble in a a corner and tie it with a slip knot .that way you can rope wherever suits you
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Post by edina on Apr 6, 2014 16:16:29 GMT
hi Sean,gripfill will do it fine.these rivets are great too,worth having around for fixing generally. just poke a hole through the canvas or leather,put the rivet through,rest on a bit of metal,put the cap on and smack it flat with a hammer ! www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/double-cap-leather-rivetsAs a complete aside... I've been looking for something along these lines for use with polypropylene webbing as an alternative to stitching, and preferably with a press tool because I'd need to do a lot, ie several hundred - thousand. Would this work with webbing? Might be worth a read. www.upholster.com/upholstery-forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=11368.0
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Post by seanrua on Apr 7, 2014 8:29:09 GMT
Thanks again, everyone.
Those commercial products are certainly neater. I use a pingpong ball or a marble for the pebble wrap way.
My original concern was to avoid piercing the main fabric; dunno why, just some irrational fear, I suppose.
I'll experiment, but whatever I do, I think I'll double up on the attachment area by fixing a patch inside and outside before anything else.
And just in passing: the old tent has been up and through that stormy winter without respite. Much of the damage seems to result from lateral pressure. Tents don't like it up 'em, but I noticed the frame has been pushes sideways and that's what causes the stretching and tearing, imo. Lashings onto kettles of water have held her down, but the main frame ( those lattice push up things) have not been quite up to the job. I'll find ways to strengthen the weak points.
sean rua.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 7, 2014 11:23:10 GMT
Many thanks for the link - with further interesting links. I'll probably do a test via a budget eyelet tool to see if the idea works then, if so, invest in proper kit. I make leads and harnesses but tough polypropylene webbing isn't easy to stitch. I'm hoping this will be a quicker and more effective alternative.
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Post by cardmaker on Apr 8, 2014 19:36:38 GMT
Many thanks for the link - with further interesting links. I'll probably do a test via a budget eyelet tool to see if the idea works then, if so, invest in proper kit. I make leads and harnesses but tough polypropylene webbing isn't easy to stitch. I'm hoping this will be a quicker and more effective alternative. I usea tool called a cropperdile it is a large tool that makes holes (very good for leather belts) and then you can put eyelets in I use it for crafting - you might get one on e bay - I will bring mine to the Hereford meet (if you are going to be there) and show you what it looks like and how it works.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 8, 2014 19:53:20 GMT
That's a kind offer, thank you. I was hoping to be able to pop into Hereford but I'm on solo-standby for an ill relative incase there are any emergencies during the Bank Holiday period, Thursday-Monday. I'll try to head along on the Saturday/Sunday if I can but I'm afraid I can't plan anything in advance at the moment. Is this the sort of tool you have? I have looked at this but wasn't sure about it. Ideally I'd like to be able to fit rivets like these rather than just eyelets so am very interested in the die on the Crop-a-dile. At the moment I'm testing the results of this as a low-budget trial. It's clear I'm going to have to punch and seal the webbing (via hot soldering iron) if it is to stand any chance of working. I'm still not wholly convinced that rivets (or even eyelets) will be completely tug-proof for a pet lead.
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Post by cardmaker on Apr 8, 2014 20:05:10 GMT
That's a kind offer, thank you. I was hoping to be able to pop into Hereford but I'm on solo-standby for an ill relative incase there are any emergencies during the Bank Holiday period, Thursday-Monday. I'll try to head along on the Saturday/Sunday if I can but I'm afraid I can't plan anything in advance at the moment. Is this the sort of tool you have? I have looked at this but wasn't sure about it. Ideally I'd like to be able to fit rivets like these rather than just eyelets so am very interested in the die on the Crop-a-dile. At the moment I'm testing the results of this as a low-budget trial. It's clear I'm going to have to punch and seal the webbing (via hot soldering iron) if it is to stand any chance of working. I'm still not wholly convinced that rivets (or even eyelets) will be completely tug-proof for a pet lead. Yup that's the one I have two (well it is for crafting) I have the large one and a smaller one you hold in your hand - I will take them with me so you can have a play - I will try and take them each time for when we do meet up.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 8, 2014 20:35:40 GMT
Thank you. I'll be at the Upton-on-Severn meet this week (Thurs/Fri) if you happen to be going there?
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