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Post by kangooroo on Jan 18, 2014 1:52:50 GMT
Wildcamping Cons for much of Europe: Distance/Fuel Ferries/Chunnel Payage/Tolls Languages Exchange Rate/Euro Different gas adapters etc Kits/stuff needed in van for regulations Police who do what they like Local WC rules that need learning Strong Sun (sun block needed) All can add up to many extra £££'s Great if you have the cash, but Scotland cheaper for me Add to that - no need to buy a passport either!
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Post by Firefox on Jan 18, 2014 4:32:17 GMT
Unless they want independence and are part of the Euro passport zone, but I can't see the passport bit happening even if they do have independence, it would damage both countries.
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Post by edina on Jan 18, 2014 5:28:18 GMT
Wildcamping Cons for much of Europe: Distance/Fuel Ferries/Chunnel Payage/Tolls Languages Exchange Rate/Euro Different gas adapters etc Kits/stuff needed in van for regulations Police who do what they like Local WC rules that need learning Strong Sun (sun block needed) All can add up to many extra £££'s Great if you have the cash, but Scotland cheaper for me Having said that, I could be persuaded to do France as distance not too bad, I can get by in the language, sun not too bad in the North, and I like the food there Edit: I also love NL. Great people who usually speak better English than the English, nice food and very relaxed. Have been there a lot but not recently. Not sure about WC there though, I think Leo (Belgian) was an expert on locations. Cor Vernon, where’s your sense of adventure? Sure Scotland is the easy option and if you like looking at mountains and lochs it’s great. Europe is too diverse for comparing to Scotland, but if you just compare France, which is the closest and easiest, the differences are easier to see. Distance/ Fuel – Fuel is cheaper and as for distance, why have a camper if you don’t want to travel? Ferries tolls etc. – One ferry across the channel, your choice whether to use toll roads or not (how do you get to the Scottish Islands?) Languages – most people manage without problems and the French don’t have the same inhibitions about it as we Brits do. Euro – You’ll get more for your money in France than Scotland. Gas – One adapter is all you need Kits etc. – The things you’re required to carry are basic safety items that most travellers have anyway. Police – Complete myth; I’ve lived there and never had problems in any of my dealings with them. It’s the same as anywhere, your attitude has a great bearing on how you’re treated, be it France or UK. WC rules – Don’t cause a nuisance and park where you like (not too difficult to follow) Strong sun – The north of France is the same as UK, the south is much hotter, you choose what suits you. In general terms the diversity of scenery, beaches and places of interest is far greater in France and driving is a lot easier and stress free. I could go on about the food, wine etc. but don’t want to make it sound too good or the place will be crawling with Brit campers. It saddens me that a lot of people base their opinion of France and “the French” on what they see in the media or their experience of a day trip to Paris or booze outlets. We lived there for eight years and I found no “anti-English” attitude, if anything it was the opposite and people went out of their way to be helpful. In contrast, when camping in the country outside Tarbet in Scotland, someone thumped on our van in the early hours of the morning and shouted “ F*** off, you don’t belong here”; a one off thing that hasn’t put us off visiting Scotland.
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Post by Firefox on Jan 18, 2014 6:20:58 GMT
I have done the Med already - Tunisia, Malta, Turkey, and sun is too hot for me down there so Spain/Portugal would be out. The main reason for most UK people spending the extra travel money to go down there would be the hot dry weather which I hate anyway,especially summer. But North France appeals as I said, although I have been about 10 times now, but still loads of places I haven't seen. I think the climate and terrain in the summer of Scandinavia and Denmark would appeal to me more personally, but value for money is a big question mark. Scotland and Wales have loads to offer closer to home
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Jan 18, 2014 9:07:32 GMT
Red wine,baguette ,congac,moules, diesel 25p/L cheaper,Sun,empty roads,more free camping than you can shake a stick at!, gateway to other countries.
Or
Haggis,whiskey,short bread,wet, midges,a few nice castles.
See you in France in the summer!
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Post by billieblue on Jan 18, 2014 11:18:02 GMT
don't mind where I go but prefer going out side school holidays when places are not so busy.
Me too Mary. I might be going to France again then. Fancy that or are you set on Ireland?q
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Jan 18, 2014 11:26:34 GMT
If I had to choose (and could afford either!) I would plump for France. I love that country, but it's a long time since I've been - too long! I haven't seen much of Scotland, but I'd certainly like to see a lot more and it's definitely on my wish list.
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Post by billieblue on Jan 18, 2014 11:37:38 GMT
Can't you join us Marie?
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Jan 18, 2014 12:09:13 GMT
Time and money, Carol, time and money Actually, on second thoughts, if I had the money I can always find the time, just need to earn some!
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Jan 18, 2014 12:09:40 GMT
I like the sound of a trip to Ireland...
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Jan 18, 2014 12:17:45 GMT
For me is mostly the chance of sun! As I work outside all year round .Jan and Feb are the worst usually for weather here and work is usually slack too.Im seriously thinking of having these two months abroad somewhere reasonably sunny next year.
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Post by marymc on Jan 18, 2014 12:40:13 GMT
don't mind where I go but prefer going out side school holidays when places are not so busy. Me too Mary. I might be going to in france again then. Fancy that or are you set on Ireland?q I am not fussy where i go anywhere suits me. I have booked up for Farmer Phils, Bearded theory, Harefest and Dans birthday bash. Nothing else planned. My son lived In spain for 8 years but has moved back here now, i am really missing escaping this grey wet weather at this time of year, could do with some sun and blue skies.
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Post by billieblue on Jan 18, 2014 12:49:59 GMT
I'm off to Harefest and F P's so far. Will look at Bearded Theory - great name!
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Post by kangooroo on Jan 18, 2014 15:27:47 GMT
I have done the Med already - Tunisia, Malta, Turkey, and sun is too hot for me down there so Spain/Portugal would be out. The main reason for most UK people spending the extra travel money to go down there would be the hot dry weather which I hate anyway,especially summer. But North France appeals as I said, although I have been about 10 times now, but still loads of places I haven't seen. I think the climate and terrain in the summer of Scandinavia and Denmark would appeal to me more personally, but value for money is a big question mark. Scotland and Wales have loads to offer closer to home I couldn't agree more. Denmark holds no appeal to me but Sweden and Norway would - stunning scenery and legal wildcamping too. The downside is the prohibitive cost especially in Norway, but it's on the very long-term wish list in summer with 24 hour daylight. Scotland and Wales are good miniature versions though, again with easy camping, no language problems and no passport needed.
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Post by Firefox on Jan 18, 2014 17:47:46 GMT
Glasgow is a bit of a Language problem! But it's a place you tend to pass through rather than wild camp!
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Post by Rubbertramp on Jan 18, 2014 17:58:42 GMT
Ooof! Can't wait till Chris reads that........ ::unsure::Get tae ****.....or away an' shite laddie may be just two of the more polite responses!
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Post by Firefox on Jan 18, 2014 18:25:59 GMT
It's factual... how often have you wildcamped there!? I wouldn't even stealthcamp, the Neds would be off with the wheels!
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Post by Rubbertramp on Jan 18, 2014 18:59:35 GMT
Never, But parked my car and patronised the pubs in some of the more "notorious" areas during many weeks working in the city over the years and never had even me legs bitten off..... and have found it to be the friendliest city I've ever been to.
My post was a bit of a wind up by the way Vern!
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Post by n brown on Jan 18, 2014 19:02:09 GMT
it certainly was ! stitch that jimmy!
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Jan 18, 2014 20:37:40 GMT
Glasgow is a fabulous city. My nephew lives there and I say the residents are even more friendly than Geordies, and that's going some!
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