|
Post by goldfish on May 4, 2013 12:34:42 GMT
cannot believe how general surgery has advanced ,in Thursday morning I was home yesterday Gall bladder removed All I got were 4 little holes on my tummy, and a sore tummy also. friend of mine had his removed some years ago and he was in hospital a week and a 6 inches scar. All NHS , years of NI contributions and tax got some back after all
|
|
|
Post by billieblue on May 4, 2013 15:00:26 GMT
Yes amazing isn't it! Hope you're ok and up and about!
|
|
|
Post by kangooroo on May 4, 2013 16:08:45 GMT
That is impressive and you've certainly seen the best of the NHS there. Hope you make a quick recovery.
Today our experience of the NHS is less positive. My FiL was taken by ambulance to A&E this morning following 2 weeks of serious and daily problems while undergoing chemo for his terminal cancer and also suffering from a persistent lung infection and shingles. Now, just 3 hours later, he's been discharged - pushed out in a wheelchair, wearing multiple layers of clothes and hats yet shivering with the car heater on full in warm sunny weather. He's been sent home to his isolated rural cottage where he lives alone with no neighbours and no support. He can barely stand up, has collapsed several times unable to get up again, and certainly can't look after himself - yet this is what is expected, it seems.
|
|
|
Post by Firefox on May 4, 2013 16:51:03 GMT
It sounds like he needs full time care at the moment.
|
|
|
Post by Firefox on May 4, 2013 16:53:29 GMT
cannot believe how general surgery has advanced ,in Thursday morning I was home yesterday Gall bladder removed All I got were 4 little holes on my tummy, and a sore tummy also. friend of mine had his removed some years ago and he was in hospital a week and a 6 inches scar. All NHS , years of NI contributions and tax got some back after all Ricky, I'm very pleased to hear it all went well for you. Wishing you the quickest of recoveries
|
|
|
Post by goldfish on May 4, 2013 18:51:41 GMT
That is impressive and you've certainly seen the best of the NHS there. Hope you make a quick recovery. Today our experience of the NHS is less positive. My FiL was taken by ambulance to A&E this morning following 2 weeks of serious and daily problems while undergoing chemo for his terminal cancer and also suffering from a persistent lung infection and shingles. Now, just 3 hours later, he's been discharged - pushed out in a wheelchair, wearing multiple layers of clothes and hats yet shivering with the car heater on full in warm sunny weather. He's been sent home to his isolated rural cottage where he lives alone with no neighbours and no support. He can barely stand up, has collapsed several times unable to get up again, and certainly can't look after himself - yet this is what is expected, it seems. Sorry with regard to your experience and I fully appreciate that I have been lucky. The NHS is like lottery, there are pockets of excellence , mediocracy, and downright poor, indifference services. In my and family experience once you get passed the starting line and into the system ,the medical staff on the whole (exceptions of course) are up to date and good . it is the aftercare that is generally poor, there appear to be a culture of indifference to suffering in the system.
|
|
|
Post by WindDancer on May 4, 2013 20:36:07 GMT
cannot believe how general surgery has advanced ,in Thursday morning I was home yesterday Gall bladder removed All I got were 4 little holes on my tummy, and a sore tummy also. friend of mine had his removed some years ago and he was in hospital a week and a 6 inches scar. All NHS , years of NI contributions and tax got some back after all Must have been a worry for you beforehand to go through the op, but glad you got a pleasant surprise afterwards. Hope the healing is speedy and all goes well.
|
|
|
Post by kangooroo on May 7, 2013 23:01:05 GMT
That is impressive and you've certainly seen the best of the NHS there. Hope you make a quick recovery. Today our experience of the NHS is less positive. My FiL was taken by ambulance to A&E this morning following 2 weeks of serious and daily problems while undergoing chemo for his terminal cancer and also suffering from a persistent lung infection and shingles. Now, just 3 hours later, he's been discharged - pushed out in a wheelchair, wearing multiple layers of clothes and hats yet shivering with the car heater on full in warm sunny weather. He's been sent home to his isolated rural cottage where he lives alone with no neighbours and no support. He can barely stand up, has collapsed several times unable to get up again, and certainly can't look after himself - yet this is what is expected, it seems. Sorry with regard to your experience and I fully appreciate that I have been lucky. The NHS is like lottery, there are pockets of excellence , mediocracy, and downright poor, indifference services. In my and family experience once you get passed the starting line and into the system ,the medical staff on the whole (exceptions of course) are up to date and good . it is the aftercare that is generally poor, there appear to be a culture of indifference to suffering in the system. I think you were very lucky. My FiL was passing blood from both ends, vomiting and choking, too weak to stand, shivering cold in the hot weather and was sent to his remote home with no support. From there the deterioration has continued and today he received the shock diagnosis that he now also has MRSA as well as terminal cancer, persistent lung infection and shingles. He's in a lot of pain from his shingles and stomach and has aged about 10 years in 3 weeks. His GP surgery telephoned with the diagnosis to ask him to drive 14 miles to the surgery to collect meds for his MRSA... He can't even stand up or walk around his home. There seems to be a huge variation in the standard of care.
|
|
|
Post by lotusanne on May 8, 2013 7:12:30 GMT
My god thats unbelievable Kangaroo, very upsetting to think that they would treat someone at the end of their life so badly. What did his GP expect him to do?? Like that hospital in the midlands,it sounds as if there is a culture in the NHS now of get the work done as top priority and if you can fit in a bit of looking after pateient needs after then they could getlucky. It is not the individual's fault in general, they are struggling to keep up with it all. I heard a nurse talking on the radio about the amount of paper work(no ward clerks any more) and how people wre getting depressed by it - and what was the NHS response - we will do a survey! So more paperwork to measure how depressed people are with the amount of paperwork!!!
|
|
|
Post by goldfish on May 8, 2013 7:37:40 GMT
I think you were very lucky. My FiL was passing blood from both ends, vomiting and choking, too weak to stand, shivering cold in the hot weather and was sent to his remote home with no support. From there the deterioration has continued and today he received the shock diagnosis that he now also has MRSA as well as terminal cancer, persistent lung infection and shingles. He's in a lot of pain from his shingles and stomach and has aged about 10 years in 3 weeks. His GP surgery telephoned with the diagnosis to ask him to drive 14 miles to the surgery to collect meds for his MRSA... He can't even stand up or walk around his home. There seems to be a huge variation in the standard of care. I am so sorry to hear that, it does highlight that that after care for the system has completely failed and appears palliative care for his pain and discomfort is what he needs. May be a call to organisation eg. Macmillan trust to seek advise/help .In times like this, rallying from family and close friends if any are very necessary. I wish him peace and all the best.
|
|