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Post by Firefox on Jan 6, 2015 14:39:46 GMT
Food £12 per day x 365 = £4360
Diesel 10000/30 = 333 gallons x£6 = £2000
MOT, Repairs and consumables (allow) = £1000
Road tax and fulltiming insurance (allow) £250 + £750 = £1000
Campsites (allow one per week at £12) = £624
Luxuries and eating out (£30 a week) = £1560
Van consumables (toiletries etc) = £520
Parking (£5 a week) = £260
Internet (£20 a month) = £240
Phone (£15 a month) = £180
Gas 1x 6kg bottle a month (£10) = £120
Electric via Solar and Alternator = £0
Unforseen expenses/contingency (allow) = £1000
Total = £12864 / Year
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Post by stonedaddy on Jan 6, 2015 23:17:56 GMT
Blimey Vern I can't afford to full time, I will just have to rough it in my detached country mansion. .... Tom ....
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Post by Firefox on Jan 6, 2015 23:36:48 GMT
One can cut down on food, luxuries, and fuel. Probably get it down to £9000 a year, but much less than that, and you'd be staying in the same area, and surviving on bread and water Even £10,000 a year is £27.40 a day... makes you think where it all comes from!
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Post by X on Jan 7, 2015 0:33:14 GMT
I think full timing insurance is nearer 2 to 3 grand ! Do not know anyone who has it though but I did ask at one point !
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Post by Firefox on Jan 7, 2015 2:11:58 GMT
I saw someone had got it for about £1000 so assumed you may be able to get it for a bit less if you shopped around.
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Post by Rubbertramp on Jan 7, 2015 12:08:28 GMT
£12 a day for food! You old porker.....costs me that for a week. Better cut down on the caviar old chap And no more campsites, or just one a month if you have to, where you can avail yourself of their free gifts of loo roll and left in the shower toiletries....there y'are, two birds with one stone. There's another £450 quid saved. And park for free out of town and walk/cycle....another 260 quid in yer pocket and it's doing you good!
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Post by lotusanne on Jan 7, 2015 12:42:51 GMT
What about Woodlands purchase??!!OK only joking! But what about alcohol? Does that come under eating out? Very interesting list, was surprised at how much it came to without the household bills to take into account Mark - its not nice to call Vern an old porker you know!!
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Post by Firefox on Jan 7, 2015 12:49:18 GMT
They're not necessarily my costs, just notional ones. I don't use campsites for example, but do have house to empty waste and shower (at the moment!) I didn't think it was fair to assume use of a house, so added campsites in as I think most fulltimers do use them every week or two. Rubbertramp £12 a week on food! You must be surviving on rice and pasta More fresh fruit, herbs, and veg needed - those cost - unless you have the time to grow and/or forage. lotusanne £12 a day would allow for a bottle of beer or a couple of glasses of wine. But evenings at the pub would have to come under luxuries. Woodland could be an investment as you can have composting loo, waste disposal, and grow your own herbs and veg
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Post by penny13 on Jan 7, 2015 14:06:49 GMT
£12 a day for food! You old porker.....costs me that for a week. Better cut down on the caviar old chap And no more campsites, or just one a month if you have to, where you can avail yourself of their free gifts of loo roll and left in the shower toiletries....there y'are, two birds with one stone. There's another £450 quid saved. And park for free out of town and walk/cycle....another 260 quid in yer pocket and it's doing you good! Not camping with you the loo roll is mine
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Post by Firefox on Jan 7, 2015 14:21:57 GMT
penny13 What's your yearly budget for treats at coffee shops!!
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Post by outtolunch on Jan 7, 2015 14:36:47 GMT
Woodland could be an investment as you can have composting loo, waste disposal, and grow your own herbs and veg you will not be getting a good veg crop with muntjac deer wandering through although you could save on your costs at the butchers
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Post by Firefox on Jan 7, 2015 14:45:26 GMT
I'm going to surround the glades and growing area with a muntjac fence. Another couple of hundred investment, although that is only 54p a day over one year, with many more in store!
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Post by penny13 on Jan 7, 2015 16:18:31 GMT
Lol my coffee shop bill ? Who knows but I am good at collecting freebies and bargains, have a Starbucks freebie to cash in now Lets just say my budget a year is a few thousand less than your estimate and paying for parking brings me out in hives !
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Post by penny13 on Jan 7, 2015 16:20:22 GMT
They're not necessarily my costs, just notional ones. I don't use campsites for example, but do have house to empty waste and shower (at the moment!) I didn't think it was fair to assume use of a house, so added campsites in as I think most fulltimers do use them every week or two. Rubbertramp £12 a week on food! You must be surviving on rice and pasta More fresh fruit, herbs, and veg needed - those cost - unless you have the time to grow and/or forage. lotusanne £12 a day would allow for a bottle of beer or a couple of glasses of wine. But evenings at the pub would have to come under luxuries. Woodland could be an investment as you can have composting loo, waste disposal, and grow your own herbs and veg Veg is cheap but £12 a week must mean eating with friends lots ?
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Post by Rubbertramp on Jan 7, 2015 18:38:22 GMT
Mark - its not nice to call Vern an old porker you know!! He knows I'm only pulling his plonker....tis the way he was ogling those saveloys in the chippy in Baldock!
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Post by Firefox on Jan 7, 2015 18:46:53 GMT
I'd never eat Saveloys under most circumstances - full of grunge You need to tell us you're weekly baccy allowance too ... I bet that puts up the cost of life on the road
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Post by Rubbertramp on Jan 7, 2015 18:54:12 GMT
They're not necessarily my costs, just notional ones. I don't use campsites for example, but do have house to empty waste and shower (at the moment!) I didn't think it was fair to assume use of a house, so added campsites in as I think most fulltimers do use them every week or two. Rubbertramp £12 a week on food! You must be surviving on rice and pasta More fresh fruit, herbs, and veg needed - those cost - unless you have the time to grow and/or forage. lotusanne £12 a day would allow for a bottle of beer or a couple of glasses of wine. But evenings at the pub would have to come under luxuries. Woodland could be an investment as you can have composting loo, waste disposal, and grow your own herbs and veg Apologies! I thought they were your costs. Aye, twelve quid indeed. Covers meat, spuds, pasta and/or rice fruit (mainly bananas), tea and coffee, milk, eggs, garlic, a bit of junk....mostly sausages, biccies and bottled sauces but indeed bolstered by the fruits of the forage. Hardly ever need to buy greens although there are only nettles and sorrel about at this time of year. Herbs I get dried, in bulk from the asian shops (those piddly little jars in the supermarkets are such a rip off!).
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Post by Rubbertramp on Jan 7, 2015 18:59:49 GMT
Aye, baccy £18 - 20 quid a week but that would come under luxuries. Only have a couple of beers most weekends so save a bit an that.....except when I'm out with you lot!
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Post by Firefox on Jan 7, 2015 19:08:02 GMT
The food costs are not far off mine though. Today I spent £4.29 on the pasta and a pint of Devil's Backbone in Wetherspoons. Tonight I'll probably spend £8 on a couple of bottles in Tesco plus some nice fresh fruit and veg and probably some fish. It's quite easy to spend £10-£15 a day on food if you get a bit of booze with it. I'd say it's typical of couples doing their weekly shop up. I see them spending £150-£200 on a big trolley load quite frequently at weekends. Though I tend to shop daily to pick up the bargains
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Post by stonedaddy on Jan 7, 2015 22:09:58 GMT
Woodland could be an investment as you can have composting loo, waste disposal, and grow your own herbs and veg you will not be getting a good veg crop with muntjac deer wandering through although you could save on your costs at the butchers Chris noooooooooooo what you saying, poor little muntjacs trying to Avoid the BBQ. They will all desert and go to another persons plot. .... Tom ....
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Post by Firefox on Jan 7, 2015 22:32:13 GMT
They can be enticed back with a deer caller! Not that I would want them around. Greedy buggers who will munch anything in sight. That's why I am planning laurel hedges. They will soon get sore tummies if they dine on those.
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Jan 8, 2015 7:54:17 GMT
Don't forget the rabbits too, Vern! Although I'm assuming the muntjac fence would take care of those too, but a proper rabbit-proof fence would have to be sunk a foot or two below ground cos the little buggers burrow there way in otherwise, and bang goes your nice fresh greens!
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Post by robmac on Jan 8, 2015 8:04:59 GMT
Don't forget the rabbits too, Vern! Although I'm assuming the muntjac fence would take care of those too, but a proper rabbit-proof fence would have to be sunk a foot or two below ground cos the little buggers burrow there way in otherwise, and bang goes your nice fresh greens! It's Mark RT you've got to watch for, he will forage those fresh greens in the blink of an eye.
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Jan 8, 2015 8:14:13 GMT
Don't forget the rabbits too, Vern! Although I'm assuming the muntjac fence would take care of those too, but a proper rabbit-proof fence would have to be sunk a foot or two below ground cos the little buggers burrow there way in otherwise, and bang goes your nice fresh greens! It's Mark RT you've got to watch for, he will forage those fresh greens in the blink of an eye. Aye, I reckon Vern might need a few man traps
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Post by n brown on Jan 8, 2015 8:34:25 GMT
what,Annie and Penny ?
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Post by lotusanne on Jan 8, 2015 8:38:19 GMT
You do mean Flashing Annie don't you . not me?!
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Post by n brown on Jan 8, 2015 10:03:07 GMT
yes,'er with the illuminated frontage !
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Post by campervanannie on Jan 8, 2015 10:20:33 GMT
Oi you leave illuminated frontage alone anyway the illuminations are back in their boxes for another year.
Rabbit stew with home grown greens mmmmm where exactly is this patch of woodland I'll sort the rabbits out for you Vernon.
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Post by outtolunch on Jan 8, 2015 10:44:22 GMT
Oi you leave illuminated frontage alone anyway the illuminations are back in their boxes for another year. Rabbit stew with home grown greens mmmmm where exactly is this patch of woodland I'll sort the rabbits out for you Vernon. I've got the the ideal weapon for you Miss Oakley
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 10:59:31 GMT
Going back to the OP, £12 per day for food is at least double what I spend. Not being able to freeze food adds considerably to costs, not being able to buy discounted bread to freeze and always buying fresh food is more expensive.
A lot of the other costs are higher too.
You haven't included laundry - a minimum cost to wash and dry one load is £5 and that's cheap, in some places it's £5 per wash. So about 4 loads per month (bedding, towels, tea towels etc as well as clothes) = £240 minimum per year.
Plus pet costs - food, toys, leads, washing bedding, insurance, jabs, flea and worming treatments etc. That's why I hardly ever drink, I've had to choose between the animals and alcohol, can't afford both.
Other costs include Christmas and birthdays - presents, parties etc.
Plus various memberships, subscriptions, breakdown cover etc.
Plus cost of purchasing / replacing technology... a new mobile every couple of years, laptop, tablet, mifi, TV, DVD player, sound system, camera, replacement batteries, spare chargers etc.
And many people would need some sort of storage facility for valuables, seasonal equipment, tools, trade / business tools / equipment etc. Guessing at about £50 per month if this has to be paid for.
In many cases, as with living in a house, your actual costs are actually dependent on your income and lifestyle - everyone is different. Some people would spend more on food and less on laundry, others would be the opposite. I probably spend the same on pet food as I do on my own food, but a lot of my food is end of day reductions, and I buy household stuff like loo rolls, kitchen roll, cleaning products etc either in bulk and /or from discount shops.
There are also gender factors to include - most women probably spend more on clothes and accessories than most men, plus haircuts much more expensive. On the whole, I think most men are not as good at finding bargains as women. People who are less familiar with technology probably pay higher prices without searching for the cheapest prices online etc.
On the whole, I think your figures would be about right for someone with a fairly comfortable income and lifestyle but there's lots of fat to trim for someone who has a lower annual income if they spend time looking for cheapest deals, bargains and who has the time to lurk around the supermarket deli counter at 8pm waiting to grab a whole roast chicken reduced from £5 to £2 which will give them at least 3 meals.
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