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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Mar 12, 2014 13:49:51 GMT
I know there's a love it/hate it divide with Apple machines, but I do like them myself. Even though they have built in redundancy more than a lot of other modern PCs - they have a technical flaw which causes the motherboard (or whatever) to conk out, sometimes only after a year or so. Horrendously expensive to get fixed if you're not under warranty. I am so torn. If I had plenty of spare dosh I would get a Mac book pro, but fat chance of finding the dough for one of those, even an old one! Will probably upgrade the operating system on my old Tosh and use it as a backup, but I definitely need a second machine as I can't afford to be without a computer while doing this and upgrading machines never goes smoothly, unless your lucky. Plus it's time consuming. You can bet your bottom dollar I'd immediately get several phone calls from people wanting stuff yesterday and I can't do it cos I'm in the middle of upgrading my machine
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Mar 12, 2014 13:54:42 GMT
Forgot to say I HAVE to have a keyboard! And as Pollik succinctly said earlier, there is no ideal portable machine that does everything yet, so it has to be a good old fashioned laptop to cover all bases for my usage.
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Post by robmac on Mar 12, 2014 16:40:22 GMT
......................Having said all that, I'm sitting here typing on my laptop because I really can't stand touch screen typing - drives me nuts! I get on better if I use a stylus but keep thinking I should get a bluetooth keyboard. On the whole, I agree with Rubbertramp... I still prefer a proper tool for each job but have grown used to the convenience of a 'one stop shop'. Ultimately, the huge advantage of an iPad or tablet for camping is battery life and, as Ellisboy said, the fact that it takes seconds to boot up from being completely off. I can't stand touch screen typing either Jenny, so will definitely get a seperate keyboard for use in the van. But the touch screen does give me the flexibility of using the Ipad when I am tent camping/hiking and want to keep the weight of my pack down, so I will put up with it for short bursts, and it's has got to be better than trying to use the internet on my 'phone which really drives me mad! Will also be great for us to chat with Sophie (our granddaughter) with video and for free when she goes to Florida. (My daughters ex takes her to Florida 3-4 times a year including a long spell during the summer holidays).
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Post by Firefox on Mar 12, 2014 17:08:23 GMT
If you get a tablet, make sure you get a very robust case.
This is one advantage of a notebook - clamshell design protecting screen and KB when you close it. I do a lot of putting it in rucksacks etc, it doesn't have an easy life with me. By the time you get a robust case, I don't think you'll save much weight over a notebook.
Most of my work needs typing so that's why I need a KB. I reckon tablets are more suited to video conference, watching films, you tube, general internet surfing etc
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Post by robmac on Mar 12, 2014 17:47:38 GMT
If you get a tablet, make sure you get a very robust case. This is one advantage of a notebook - clamshell design protecting screen and KB when you close it. I do a lot of putting it in rucksacks etc, it doesn't have an easy life with me. By the time you get a robust case, I don't think you'll save much weight over a notebook. Most of my work needs typing so that's why I need a KB. I reckon tablets are more suited to video conference, watching films, you tube, general internet surfing etc Yes I've looked into that Vern. I am considering one of these; www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EYDTA3W/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=AAN216ORE1XKUOnce in that and wrapped in my sleeping bag, it should be OK. (Not to mention inside a plastic barrel when in the canoe!).
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Mar 12, 2014 20:41:24 GMT
That looks similar to my iPad case, very robust.I don't use a case for my iphone though ,as I hate cases on phones.Ive dropped it a lot and the case is chipped and dented ,but still works fine.They are surprisingly durable.
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Post by Mikehanky on Mar 12, 2014 20:45:51 GMT
after our trusty friend or hp blow up we went looking for a replacement end up with acer aspire e1531 windows 8 that's where the problems started ,as our accounts page money soft is not compatible we end up buying an old office dell windows 7 to finish years end accounts.
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Post by Oldish Hippy on Mar 12, 2014 21:41:00 GMT
well thinking of passing my laptop on to someone who needs one dont know if it will run seven yet havet checked it out think it will will need memory upgrade from 2 gig to 4 gig to make it run quicker should run sevenas it has a turion 64bit amd cpu running at 2ghz and have put in a dvd writer even though the cover say it is isnt swapped out from another laptop ati radeon express 1150 256mb of memory graphics
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Post by stonedaddy on Mar 13, 2014 0:20:44 GMT
I would always go for the Ipad. I have never used one but I believe an apple a day keeps the doctor away .... OK got me coat i'll shut the door behind me . .... Tom ....
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Mar 13, 2014 4:37:38 GMT
Richard Stubbs (on the other site) has recommended this machine. He works with software (for a living I presume?) and this is what he uses right now. Cheap as chips, too. Well, comparatively speaking! Dell InspironI know Dell are very proprietary, and it used to be a bugger to get them fixed if anything goes wrong, but is that the only drawback? Any thoughts?
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Post by Mini on Mar 13, 2014 10:33:24 GMT
I'd have no problem with the Inspiron 15 but I'd definitely go for a better processor than the one in the link. This one for instance... or better if you can. Inspiron 15 with i3 processorI've just posted over there, so may as well cut and paste here too "My thoughts... for what they're worth Going back a few years, I would have recommended Dell, Toshiba and Compaq (now HP) for laptops... Apple and Sony certainly, if money wasn't an issue, although the differences are really just cosmetic. Mind you, I'm a sucker for beautiful, sleek machines, so I'm not dissing the 'love it to bits' aspect. These days though, even the top brands like are fairly plasticky, as everyone tries to keep costs down to compete. I've almost always bought Dells (for the office too when I worked in IT) but a few years back, my last Dell began to play up... I figured it needed a new hard drive but they were silly money back then - almost £200 - and I could pick up a decent i5 HP Pavilion g series on sale for around £400, which I did. I looked on it as a temporary measure but it's still going strong and, although I don't exactly 'feel the love', I've no complaints about it at all after 3 years... it even looks and feels classy compared to most. Meanwhile, the price of new hard drives dropped like a stone, so I bought one for the Dell for £35 and now that's going strong again at 7 years old as a backup/spare. I also have a Samsung netbook that I bought in April 2009 for pure portability - in pre tablet days. I'm not saying get a netbook but I would say that I've been really surprised and happy with the build quality from Samsung. They were fairly new boys on the scene for computers back then but have gained a lot of ground and IMO make some really good machines. After my experience with the netbook, I'd definitely think about getting a Samsung next time. Another thought to throw in to the mix is why not buy cheap and cheerful and just accept that you might need to replace it in a couple of years? Even the lowliest laptop is going to feel like a sleek racehorse compared to your 8-year-old one. I would still go for a sale price on one of the names I respect but not their top of the range, which I doubt would last any longer than the cheaper ones.... and I personally wouldn't want to add to the cost with the high-price insurance they try to sell you. Besides, the way technology moves on in leaps and bounds these days, I wouldn't want to break the bank for a machine that's going to be out of date in a couple of years anyway. Whichever way to you decide to go, my personal checklist would be: - Dell, Toshiba, Samsung or HP for brand... - Minimum i3 processor - preferably i5 or higher. I'm not up on the equivalent AMD processors these days but my daughter's old Dell, bought in 2006, had an AMD chip and it's still in regular use as far as I know. So I wouldn't ignore AMD but I'd check the equivalents to Intel i3, i5 and i7 - As big a hard drive as I could afford - you can never have too much storage space. Failing that, a big USB external drive for backup and to store all those huge Mb photos and videos on there instead... plus in the Cloud of course - I never worry too much about how much memory is already onboard because you can replace/increase memory really cheaply via Crucial Memory UK or Kingston memory - If I couldn't push the boat as far as a separate graphics card, I'd make sure I increased the RAM even more to allow for the shared memory aspect - Wireless, bluetooth and an ethernet socket for those times when you need to hard wire to a router/outlet somewhere HDMI connector along with all the usual ports and sockets Hmmm almost makes me want to go laptop shopping but my 'temporary measure' is still bright eyed and bushy tailed
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Post by Mini on Mar 13, 2014 10:44:38 GMT
If you're strongly considering Dell, look out for voucher codes on the the usual sites. Also, check out their clearance deals and their factory outlet offers. It's a shame you can't configure your own specification like in the old days though.
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Post by robmac on Mar 14, 2014 8:14:15 GMT
Another spanner in the works. Just about to 'click and collect' on the Ipad Air. Kid's now suggesting get the Sony Xperia Tablet Z, Snapdragon S4 Pro, Android, 10.1 and get the grandkids to download the Skype App on their Ipads so we can use this instead.
I like Sony, always have so am tempted. Anybody got one?
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Post by robmac on Mar 14, 2014 8:19:12 GMT
Another good reason for the Sony. I will be able to tether it much more easily to my Samsung Galaxy S3 and I will also be able to add a 64gb micro sd card which you cannot on the Ipad.
Help!!
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Post by robmac on Mar 14, 2014 8:51:46 GMT
Ooooops. Julie has read the reviews and ordered the Sony!
We got the 32gb version at £399 and the offer included a £39 case for free. ordered from John Lewis as we use them a lot and any problems are sorted out very quickly. Collect from our local Waitrose tomorrow.
Still interested in any opinions though. (This is where we get told we've bought a Lemon!).
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Post by Firefox on Mar 14, 2014 11:56:06 GMT
Sony has a good reputation. I heard they were getting out of laptops as the Vaio range is hugely loss making in a competitive and shrinking market. I'm presuming they will still make the tablets.
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Post by Firefox on Mar 14, 2014 12:00:58 GMT
Sony has a good reputation. I heard they were getting out of laptops as the Vaio range is hugely loss making in a competitive and shrinking market. I'm assuming they will still make the tablets.
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Mar 14, 2014 12:21:44 GMT
You getting Alzheimers, Mr Fox?
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Post by ross on Mar 15, 2014 22:22:18 GMT
I'm a little late in on this, but for what it's worth . . . If complete portability, flexibility & connectivity are needed you can't beat an iPad with SIM. Basic iPad 2 models are more than satisfactory. And look at the sell-on value. iPads have retained a very strong second hand value, despite the numerous upgrades and newer versions. Laptops on the other hand, have fairly lost their value within a couple of years, and after that are uneconomical to repair. They do fail & break, and it's always cheaper to buy a new one. So my advice would be to get an iPad, and then if a laptop is needed to do the old-fashioned windows based things that laptops can do get the cheapest best spec unit you can find. Dell are tops, but very pricey; avoid Acer; Asus are worth a look. If you don't need a SIM for connectivity, the best & cheapest android based tablet that I'd recommend is Ainol Novo 2. It's the same as a Google Nexus, but half the price & will support a SIM in a connected USB dongle. About £120 on Amazon. Otherwise, if you must go for just a top spec laptop you'll be able to sell an iPad Air on after a year for pretty much the same price!
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Post by robmac on Mar 17, 2014 20:05:50 GMT
Got the Sony Experia 32GB and I must say I am very impressed. Very quick, loads of useful apps and excellent picture quality for films and a brilliant camera. What really surprised me was that I get on fine with the touch screen keyboard, the keys are big and it is not at all finicky.
My middle son was so impressed that he went out and bought one the day mine arrived!
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