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Post by gaz on Sept 16, 2013 11:49:30 GMT
ive heard in ye olde days they used to chuck a couple of chickens down the chimney ..
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Post by robmac on Sept 16, 2013 12:15:45 GMT
Cracking idea! We've got Chickens, we've got a chimney.
Forget the chimley sweep next time (Cor Blimey!).
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Post by n brown on Sept 16, 2013 12:34:52 GMT
little compressor.van flues aren't long,i always did mine with a stick from the top,and when burning eucalyptus,a 5inch flue needs cleaning twice a week,just a quick ladder job. and it would need to be a terminally anorexic chicken to fit this flue !
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Post by Firefox on Sept 16, 2013 12:39:46 GMT
Great pics Mr N Brown. I like the one on the left too. Still very compact.
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Sept 16, 2013 19:40:56 GMT
Nice pictures mate.
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Post by gaz on Sept 16, 2013 22:12:07 GMT
little compressor.van flues aren't long,i always did mine with a stick from the top,and when burning eucalyptus,a 5inch flue needs cleaning twice a week,just a quick ladder job. and it would need to be a terminally anorexic chicken to fit this flue
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Post by gaz on Sept 16, 2013 22:14:33 GMT
so in the olden days what did ya do then mr brown sorry couldnt help mesel pmsl
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Post by gaz on Sept 16, 2013 22:20:56 GMT
last time i dropped a chicken down the chimney i broke the grate....i later found out i should have defrosted it first
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Post by n brown on Sept 17, 2013 19:12:24 GMT
did a bit more on the little burner today,making sure it's safe etc,as you can see,it chucks out quite a bit of heat for a little 'un
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Post by robmac on Sept 17, 2013 19:23:05 GMT
Keeps the grass down as well, it's a win win situation.
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Post by gaz on Sept 17, 2013 19:35:05 GMT
nice little stove looks nice and cosy pmsl looks like it was forged in middle earth
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Post by n brown on Sept 17, 2013 19:47:53 GMT
cheers gaz,that blacksmithing apprenticeship wasn't a waste of time then !
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Post by gaz on Sept 17, 2013 19:58:32 GMT
no no no no no...yes...jokin aside it looks pretty cool... no pun is that acctual flames in the piccy????was it as bad as it looks cant quite make out whats what
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Post by n brown on Sept 17, 2013 20:08:11 GMT
I chucked some petrol at it to help burn off the paint,then took the pic as a joke ,but it actually seems ok,trying it tonite with a bit of coal in it,got no seals on it and doesn't leak smoke and draws ok.
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Post by gaz on Sept 17, 2013 20:12:07 GMT
right that clears that up nicely ...thought that must have been an accelerant pmsl
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Post by tommy on Sept 19, 2013 19:51:18 GMT
It set me back £180 off ebay and I replaced the burner as i dont want to be messing about with it at some point. (very simple job, there is nothing to these bar a burner and a couple of easily diagnosable parts) As for the noise, its loud for the warming up period, but when it cuts into its final stage its about the same as a truma at the same stage. I ve just got to wire it into a "battery house thermostat" to give better temperature control (within 1c )as I find the van temperature can vary a bit before it clicks off and on. correction, its loud outside but as its below the seating its about the same as a truma inside and i figure i m going to need the silencer on the exhaust havong got one for the air inlet. What is anoying is that when the burner clicks off as the van is at set temperature, the fan in the heater continues to run using 1.2amps and although i can cure it with the " battery house thermostat" i m wondering if the optional extra webasto external temperature sensor cures this edit update.. I have now fitted an exhaust and inlet silencer and the noise outside is very much reduced and having run it a couple of nights I have decided not to fit an extra thermostat as the fan continuing to run mixes the air in the van and eliminates cold drafts from the cab. I can safely say this is one of the best extras I have fitted to the van and one I believe is a must have if someone is contemplating living in a van full time.
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Post by Etienne Le Croq on Sept 19, 2013 22:09:37 GMT
My ebber has now been mended( new ecu) needs collecting from menders and just bought a 7 day programmable timer ( diagnostic one) so should be warm this winter !
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Post by robmac on Sept 22, 2013 0:52:21 GMT
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Post by seanrua on Sept 23, 2013 15:26:44 GMT
I suppose i'm lazy but i burn off most of the soot on my woodburner. If you're posh or concerned, you can buy some stuff for doing this.
The rocket stove, however, has very little deposit. Maybe it is more efficient and combusts everything better. When it's right ( 60% of the time), there is very little smoke given off. When it's wrong , 'tis like an old steam engine going through a tunnel!
Leaks are something I don't really understand. I find the "draw" pulls most things away, even when there are big gaps and holes. That said, I cemented over the ash insulation at various bad points before i went to Ireland. Despite the thing being left out in wet weather, it fired up quite well when i came back. One thing that does seem to stabilise this big version of a rocket stove is stoking from above as well as from the the horizontal. When there is a good bed of red embers established, the thing works really well. In fact, it was too hot and I had to hold the pan up to prevent food burning. Remember, the rocket stove I have is for cooking and not heating. because the insulating ash had been kept dry this time, I found I could easily hold my hand on the surrounding burco can which remained cool. All the heat is supposed to go up the pipe in this thing.
Different uses; different principles.
sean rua.
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Post by seanrua on Sept 23, 2013 15:27:40 GMT
Sorry, I think I'm on the wrong thread, but there is a connection, imo.
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Post by robmac on Sept 23, 2013 15:39:36 GMT
Correct Sean, the rocket is designed to send heat upwards rather than outwards, as in the woodgas stoves which are purely for cooking also.
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Post by n brown on Sept 23, 2013 18:49:27 GMT
the reason I mentioned the lack of leaks is because I've never tried such a thin flue before,and wasn't sure if it would suck the smoke out quicker than the stove produced it !normally i'd have at least a 4'' with a damper,don't think there's a lot of point putting one in a 2'' pipe ! seans right,you might get a little smoke on this sort of crude burner when first lighting it,,but after that the draw up the flue will remove any smoke or fumes.we never had a smoke or co detector ,being a bit naïve,so it's just as well these burners work ok. when I lit my one in the van,the flue outside looked like a rocket exhaust with a 3 foot jet of flame !
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Post by seanrua on Sept 23, 2013 21:06:06 GMT
I have yet to prove the effect of a thin narrow flue pipe, BUT one guy on youtube destroyed his whole set up when he applied a narrow "air feeder" to his set up. 'Twas the guy with the real Appalachian drawl, and i think he came to grief when he was experimenting with the Dakota Pit stove.
Not sure, as that might have been a different failure. I know on one video, the "fireproof cloth wrap" didn't do its job, but did make the fire too high and uncontrollable.
In other words, too fast a "rocket burn" is NOT what we want.
I, too, was na ive about leaks, and still am unconcerned, really. As, from what i can, tell hot air rises and takes plenty with it. However, that time i enquired about "liquid weld" etc, gap-sealing was one of the aims.
In passing, does anybody know if those portable dremel things are any good? I'm afraid my skills with the old tinsnips and chisel are deteriorating fast. I need to be more accurate at cutting.
sean rua.
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Post by seanrua on Sept 23, 2013 21:10:17 GMT
Btw, if you run out of chickens, why not try dragging through a bit of a gorse bush or the like ( on a string)?
It can be burnt afterwards. Many of the old bake-ovens used them to heat up the oven, though we called them "windy-bushes", if i remember correctly. Too dangerous INSIDE the MH, perhaps.
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Post by seanrua on Sept 23, 2013 21:12:27 GMT
I'm getting more forgetful:
I should have added and use a goosewing to brush around the hearth etc.
Make sure the goose doen't know anything about this, btw.
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Sept 24, 2013 9:10:47 GMT
Oi! I can hear, you know Chocolate. Now, please.
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Post by robmac on Sept 24, 2013 20:18:09 GMT
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Post by n brown on Sept 24, 2013 20:50:10 GMT
dremel are playtools really,in the same league as those tools which have many attachments,none of which work very well.black and decker stuff
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Post by seanrua on Sept 24, 2013 21:25:11 GMT
Thanks for the tip, lads,
and sorry about the wing, Autumn Mongoose.
There has just gotta be a good portable cutter that's less cumbersome than the disc-cutter. Bloke i know was locked out, so he cut the snab of the doorcatch without hardly touching the paintwork. Pretty scary really, i suppose. Not sure what tool it was, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't an ordinary hacksaw.
sean rua.
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Post by n brown on Sept 24, 2013 21:32:27 GMT
a small disc cutter with,very importantly,a 1mm blade,is a brilliant tool,i do all sorts of stuff and this gets used a lot,i'd have got it out for a lock job like you described
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