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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 28, 2015 22:50:55 GMT
No Ann I meant everywhere, it was one of my daft jokey statements. .... Tom ....
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Post by billieblue on Oct 28, 2015 23:04:14 GMT
Enough of this Tom, how come you're not posting updates on your threads?
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Post by lotusanne on Oct 29, 2015 8:55:39 GMT
No Ann I meant everywhere, it was one of my daft jokey statements. .... Tom .... Oh right get it now!! Your talents are wasted here Tom, pearls before swine as they say!! Xx
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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 29, 2015 10:03:25 GMT
Enough of this Tom, how come you're not posting updates on your threads? I am up to date. I came to a dead stop when had to go get them split pins, then flu injections, then it rained. So not been able to do much since weather broke. Today I take madam shopping. Its raining now so maybe this afternoon it may clear up somewhat. .... Tom ....
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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 29, 2015 10:05:52 GMT
No Ann I meant everywhere, it was one of my daft jokey statements. .... Tom .... Oh right get it now!! Your talents are wasted here Tom, pearls before swine as they say!! Xx I don't think they are wasted Ann, I don't think they ever existed. I even confuse myself sometimes. .... Tom ....
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Post by Firefox on Oct 29, 2015 11:29:42 GMT
No Ann I meant everywhere, it was one of my daft jokey statements. .... Tom .... Oh right get it now!! Your talents are wasted here Tom, pearls before swine as they say!! Xx Pearls before jewels you mean
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Oct 29, 2015 13:36:57 GMT
Oh right get it now!! Your talents are wasted here Tom, pearls before swine as they say!! Xx Pearls before jewels you mean Ooo… Vern, you old Lickspittle Fox! You after a favour or something?
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Post by marymc on Oct 30, 2015 7:27:18 GMT
A lot of the Midland canals and some others had their locks built at 7 feet Tom, which is why boats were built at 6ft 10. But there are canals with wider locks. Also rivers, my local river has a maximum beam which I think is set at 11ft, The Llangollen is beautiful Tom, another place I want to go with the canoe. That aquaduct at Pontcysyllte is a bit leary though, think I'll stay on the towpath side! I took a narrow boat over that aquaduct it's a weird feeling being so high up with just a few inches of edging on one side and a bus load of Japanese tourists taking photos on the tow path side. A lot of locks to navigate on the Llangollen Canal.
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Post by lotusanne on Oct 30, 2015 8:14:51 GMT
Sounds scary Mary, and slightly surreal! It must be close to the Wremnbury Halloween meet will have to check it out - might take camera and join the Japanese tourists!
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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 30, 2015 9:32:43 GMT
The boat yard where we picked our boat up was right at one end of that viaduct. We had to sail over it on our very first drive. and it sure is high. We was going to go to Llangollen first which was the other way but was advised to do it at the end of our journey round the Cheshire ring. It was good advice because we only just made it back in time , so never got to go the other way to Llangollen itself. We did go by car after we un-hired the boat later though. Here is a couple of pic's looking over the side of the viaduct. Its scary when sailing through coz one side is only about 2" thick cast iron plating. .... Tom .... free photo hosting
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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 30, 2015 9:34:22 GMT
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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 30, 2015 9:35:42 GMT
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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 30, 2015 9:37:24 GMT
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Post by stonedaddy on Oct 30, 2015 9:39:25 GMT
Goodness it sure brings back memories seeing these again. Can you fit me and Rocco on one of your trips . .... Tom ....
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Post by edina on Oct 30, 2015 9:57:27 GMT
Sorry for being a bit late adding my sixpennth, but I’ve just got out of hospital after having my knee dismantled again (praps you could have a look at it for me Tom). First observations:- don’t be put off older boats because of a bit of pitting - just 0.75mm after 20+ years is very good and would prove to me that it was built out of decent steel unlike a lot of the new imported stuff. I’ve seen 5 yr old boats being re-plated! It cost about £100 per foot when we had our last boat re-plated. Anodes and blacking are very important; surveyors will tell you to black the bottom but tis a waste of time and money, cos you’ll rub it off in no time on the canals. Personal obs on the pics are that the old fashioned t&g would have to go, it looks good when first fitted but darkens with time to give a gloomy feel to the interior. The seating area also wouldn’t be at all comfortable and I’d change it. Squirrels are great heaters but check for wear around the “rattler” hole. Listers are a bit of an enthusiasts engine and if you like fiddling are fine, but if you want to just turn the key and go I’d look for a newer skin tank cooled engine. Places to check when looking at the boat: Flooring around showers, kitchens, entry doorways and anywhere that domestic water could have leaked. There will be access panels in the floor, make sure these are lifted so you can inspect the ballast and base-plate. The ballast should be mounted so that it cannot rub on the base-plate, there are lots of ways of doing it and lots of different ballast types, paving slabs being the most popular. Avoid poured concrete!! Metal work around doors and windows, especially side hatches. The type of windows fitted to this boat are prone to dribble, so check the walls below the window at each end. The layout looks fairly standard and we’ve found that a front mounted stove often sends enough heat to the sleeping area and we’ve never needed radiators. Our longest boat was a 57’ and is a good size to handle, our last was 42’ and still made a good liveaboard. It’s worth noting that most of your major costs will be based on the length of the boat. One word of advice - don’t ask other people to look at boats for you, everyone’s ideas about what are good and bad vary so much. If you are seriously interested, go and look at it and ask for the owners to be there, you’ll learn more from them than a broker. Insist on a trial run and test it yourself for simple things like vibrations, noises and rudder play; give it plenty of wellie and see what it’s like in reverse. I reckon the main thing is not to sit at home looking through loads of pics, but to get out and look at lots of boats (the brokers won’t mind) and talk to lots of people about why they chose the boat they have. Good luck and if you want a chat pm me for a phone number.
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Post by robmac on Oct 30, 2015 10:53:31 GMT
I wouldn't touch those Listers Chris, they were made by a very dodgy family!
Eh Charlie, Eh?
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Post by lotusanne on Oct 30, 2015 13:32:22 GMT
Hi Chris many thanks for your detailed and useful observations and sorry to hear about your knee, hope ist not too painful - though I think knee ops usually are . A lot of things you mentioned I had never thought of. We have been to see lots of boats for sale and I agree it is by far the best way to get an idea of what they are like and what we want for ours, the brokers are great, happy to let you wander around botas for as long as you like, and helpful with answers to questions. I think we will leave this one - partly cos its such along way to view and we are at a meet this weekend, though I had another reply from the broker which has made me think it might be worth looking at: Hi Anna, I am Darron Natalie's boss and a broker with extensive experience selling boats. I was surprised to hear that you were put off by Natalie mentioning that there may be possible re plating of the bottom in the future. As explained and detailed in the advert this is not an advisory but something to watch out for in the future. As you may be aware steel and water are not a good mix and there will always be some sort of reaction and slight pitting with age. As the surveyor has a code of practice and responsible for their findings, everything must be detailed in their report and all that was written in the survey was that nothing was wrong with the hull apart from needed anodes and blacking which has been done but keep an eye on the bottom as may need re-plating in the future. This could be 10, 20 or 50 years depending on how it is looked after and maintained. With routine maintenance of blacking every 3 years or so the current bottom should last for years. If I was buying a boat this would not be concern and any survey would always mention to keep and eye on something as may need changing in the future. If you were interested we could always agree a sale subject to survey if that would reassure you. If you would like to arrange a viewing, please call me on 01442 891597 to arrange a time, however we have 5 viewings today, 2 on Sunday, 1 on Tuesday and 1 on Wednesday already booked and the sale is on a first come first served basis. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Kind regards Darron Bishop Tom - great pics again thanks, and yes of coutse you can come for a sail or a put put or what ever the right word id Rob - Lister? Charlie?? Interesting!! Leaving shortly forHalloween meet, will keep an eye on this if any signal
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Post by edina on Oct 31, 2015 8:29:03 GMT
If it’s of any use to you, the brokers we dealt with for our last purchase and sale were Gt HaywoodWe could not fault them as they kept us informed through the whole process, with a dedicated web page we could follow the sale on. They have grown from one office when we first knew them to five I think it is now, so they’re doin summat right. I’ve just looked online and seen a couple of poor reviews, I always suspect competitors when I read things like that, but can only comment on the treatment we, and other boaters we know, have received. If you do get in touch with Ellie please remember us to her - Chris & Dawn off nb Coromandel. Happy hunting.
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