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Post by Firefox on Apr 28, 2014 22:01:33 GMT
Dutch Oven is one of these: www.amazon.co.uk/Berghoff-Cast-Aluminium-Saut%C3%A9-Glass/dp/B002GP7GQ8/Berghoff ceramic non stick saute pan, with a cake rack cut and manipulated to form a platform inside, and the glass lid is lined with silver foil. No idea what temp it gets to but it gets bloody hot, I'd say about gas mark 6-7 on the large flame and gas mark 3 on the small one.
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Post by campervanannie on Apr 28, 2014 22:35:26 GMT
T4 but I would like a newer T5 I am happy with the size and as for the cooking facilities I have an oven now as we bought a Kampa Roastmaster and it is brilliant two rings and an oven you can fit a large chicken in runs on gas as it is portable we can lift it in and out of the van at our leisure.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 13:58:23 GMT
I like the look of that Kampa Roastmaster VERY much - it's just what I've been looking for. With a few mm to spare, it looks as though it might even fit in my van although I'm not sure how practical and feasible this would be (it would need to be a fixed installation to replace my existing hob and (useless)grill. Definitely interested though!
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Post by campervanannie on Apr 29, 2014 15:07:23 GMT
I like the look of that Kampa Roastmaster VERY much - it's just what I've been looking for. With a few mm to spare, it looks as though it might even fit in my van although I'm not sure how practical and feasible this would be (it would need to be a fixed installation to replace my existing hob and (useless)grill. Definitely interested though! We can't have it fixed as I have an all terrain mobility trike that just fits in our T4 where the cooker would normally go so we have had a padded bag made for the K.R so we don't bang it about lifting it in and out and in good weather we love to cook outside.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 15:24:45 GMT
I hope we meet sometime because I'd quite like to see it in use to see how hot it gets and whether it produces high carbon monoxide (I'm aware the spec states it's for outdoor use only). I'm looking for something I can use in my van (or a future van). Outdoor cooking isn't very practical for my stealth wildcamping!
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Post by Firefox on Apr 29, 2014 16:15:13 GMT
It's just as easy to cremate things in an oven, dutch oven, grill or pan though.
Unless one wants to do large family roasts or a lot of baking (big cakes etc) (which I know you don't!), I'd reckon something like this would be somewhat overkill for your particular cooking needs.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 17:28:22 GMT
I'm about to experiment with a new method due to be tested tonight - steaming, in the hope it won't drench the van.
I wish I could find a way of pan-cooking that would 'oven bake' fish without adding fat. Even the slightest spray of oil seems to make food greasy. The only things I've actually managed (and some would question this!) are bacon, gammon and burgers.
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Post by Firefox on Apr 29, 2014 17:47:44 GMT
Dutch Oven as per my previous post. You can also do steaming in that too (Just add water to the bottom of the saute pan)
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Apr 29, 2014 18:07:40 GMT
Karen, try Jo's way of cooking Bacon/Sausages....should work with Fish.... Add a tad of water to a saucepan, + salt (approx 1/2 the height of fish when flat in pan) & boil the fish (Lid on Saucepan). Simmer 'till water's gone & then it does n't take long 'dry frying'. You don't need ANY Oil for Fish/Bacon/Sausages 'cos They're loaded wiv it!! .....Whoops, this is just a long-winded version of what Vernon's already said above!
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 18:36:02 GMT
Doesn't this make the bacon go soggy?!
I'm going to try it with frozen un-crumbed cod/haddock fillets. I'm not sure about putting the fish in water (does it feel wet/soggy when cooked) but will have a go at steaming - an idea offered by Youngs Seafoods which I contacted for tips(!). A very helpful person responded who sounded very much like a camper herself.
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Post by campervanannie on Apr 29, 2014 18:46:51 GMT
I hope we meet sometime because I'd quite like to see it in use to see how hot it gets and whether it produces high carbon monoxide (I'm aware the spec states it's for outdoor use only). I'm looking for something I can use in my van (or a future van). Outdoor cooking isn't very practical for my stealth wildcamping! We do use it in the van when we are wilding we just open the side door and the drivers door window creating a through draught and we have CM detector in the van. We are at the Hereford meet if that's any good for you .
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Post by edina on Apr 29, 2014 18:50:12 GMT
Doesn't this make the bacon go soggy?! I'm going to try it with frozen un-crumbed cod/haddock fillets. I'm not sure about putting the fish in water (does it feel wet/soggy when cooked) but will have a go at steaming - an idea offered by Youngs Seafoods which I contacted for tips(!). A very helpful person responded who sounded very much like a camper herself. With white fish one of my favourites is to put in foil parcels with a slug of dry white wine (Muscadet by choice), ground black pepper, a few capers and fennel seeds, then slices of lemon on top. Seal the foil top up and steam until just cooked - scrummy. Of course you then have an opened bottle of wine and it would be a sin to leave it.
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Post by campervanannie on Apr 29, 2014 18:54:07 GMT
I'm about to experiment with a new method due to be tested tonight - steaming, in the hope it won't drench the van. I wish I could find a way of pan-cooking that would 'oven bake' fish without adding fat. Even the slightest spray of oil seems to make food greasy. The only things I've actually managed (and some would question this!) are bacon, gammon and burgers. Why not buy a small pressure cooker you can cook basically anything in one from fish to a joint and all the veg too and they create less steam than a steamer would I have used one for years at home and camping and not expensive to buy £24 to about £60 depending on size and make and you food tastes better as all the flavour is contained.
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Post by n brown on Apr 29, 2014 19:12:04 GMT
ah pressure cookers ! one of the funnier things i have seen is a food tent in Glasto,full off confused hippies covered in lentil soup which was still dripping from the roof after the pressure cooker decided to vent ! but don't let me put you off
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Post by campervanannie on Apr 29, 2014 19:31:48 GMT
ah pressure cookers ! one of the funnier things i have seen is a food tent in Glasto,full off confused hippies covered in lentil soup which was still dripping from the roof after the pressure cooker decided to vent ! but don't let me put you off Yes there not something you can stick on the gas and forget but when you can cook fish potatoes and veg in one pan in under 5 mins then why would you walk away and leave it on. And they use less gas. And a pressure cooker will vent if you let the pressure go too hight and leave it building up it's a safety gasket,
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 19:33:52 GMT
Campervanannie: I am/was hoping to head along to Hereford as it's very local to me in Ross-on-Wye but I'm on in-law duty Fri-Mon while my husband's away, and also preparing to leave my rabbits and preparing my van for heading up to Scotland the following week. I don't think time will permit but if I can - I will, although I won't be able to stay overnight. Re a pressure cooker. As you might have guessed, I'm not a culinary expert. I always thought these cooked slowly over several hours so would gobble gas whereas I'm looking for the fastest possible hot blast to get the cooking out of the way so I can move away to continue my touring. I could be wrong though, and probably am. Edina: Youngs also mentioned cooking fish by wrapping it in foil as an alternative to steaming or boiling it in water (which sounds wet and soggy to me - I like it crisp and dry...). I'll forget the seasonings - I like just simple, uncomplicated stuff (and I'm teetotal so I'll pass on the wine). I'm still gearing myself up to trying out the Asda £12 steam pan I've sat staring at for the last week. I'll be really pleased if it works!
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 19:38:49 GMT
Yes there not something you can stick on the gas and forget but when you can cook fish potatoes and veg in one pan in under 5 mins then why would you walk away and leave it on. And they use less gas. And a pressure cooker will vent if you let the pressure go too hight and leave it building up it's a safety gasket, 5 minutes and little gas - I'm suddenly VERY interested! (I must have been thinking of a slow cooker earlier...)
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Post by campervanannie on Apr 29, 2014 19:42:52 GMT
Campervanannie: I am/was hoping to head along to Hereford as it's very local to me in Ross-on-Wye but I'm on in-law duty Fri-Mon while my husband's away, and also preparing to leave my rabbits and preparing my van for heading up to Scotland the following week. I don't think time will permit but if I can - I will, although I won't be able to stay overnight. Re a pressure cooker. As you might have guessed, I'm not a culinary expert. I always thought these cooked slowly over several hours so would gobble gas whereas I'm looking for the fastest possible hot blast to get the cooking out of the way so I can move away to continue my touring. I could be wrong though, and probably am. Edina: Youngs also mentioned cooking fish by wrapping it in foil as an alternative to steaming or boiling it in water (which sounds wet and soggy to me - I like it crisp and dry...). I'll forget the seasonings - I like just simple, uncomplicated stuff (and I'm teetotal so I'll pass on the wine). I'm still gearing myself up to trying out the Asda £12 steam pan I've sat staring at for the last week. I'll be really pleased if it works! Let me explain it better if you boil a pan of potatoes you have to cover the spuds with water bring it to the boil and simmer for 10/15 mins, a pressure cooker you put in about a beaker of water heat the water put the spuds veg in sael the lid set pressure set timer usually 3/5 mins for veg job done using less gas less water faster cooking. It is steaming but under pressure.
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Post by rod on Apr 29, 2014 19:53:18 GMT
My mum used one for years at home, food was tasty. I love all types of fish, but I hate the cooking smell that lingers in the house afterwards!
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 19:57:34 GMT
Reading these posts and now browsing Amazon, I think I've bought the wrong pan The pressure cooker idea sounds so much more suitable for use in a van - fast cooking, less steam, economical on gas.... I wish this thread had run a week ago. I'd never even thought of using a pressure cooker.
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Post by n brown on Apr 29, 2014 20:25:31 GMT
no point doing fish in a pressure cooker,it doesn't take long anyway,and doing it in foil like whatsisnamebucket said stops most of the smell.you can do fish like that on a barbie,and veg
and the pressure cooker blew because i'd advised the guy that it was okay to put a nut and bolt where the safety valve had fell out
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Post by Firefox on Apr 29, 2014 22:24:29 GMT
Re a pressure cooker. As you might have guessed, I'm not a culinary expert. I always thought these cooked slowly over several hours so would gobble gas whereas I'm looking for the fastest possible hot blast to get the cooking out of the way so I can move away to continue my touring. I could be wrong though, and probably am. The temperature at which water boils depends on the pressure. If you raise the pressure, you can raise the temperature of the steam hence you can cook at 120 degrees instead of 100. That's how it works. Also steam is much more effective at transferring heat energy than air.
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 22:27:01 GMT
I'll have a trial with the steamer pan on Thursday and see how it works out. If it's a total disaster then there's just about time to order a pressure cooker from Amazon. If not, it's back to leaving a trail of bacon fumes around Scotland!
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Post by X on Apr 29, 2014 22:30:35 GMT
I'll have a trial with the steamer pan on Thursday and see how it works out. If it's a total disaster then there's just about time to order a pressure cooker from Amazon. If not, it's back to leaving a trail of bacon fumes around Scotland! You need a blowtorch
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Apr 29, 2014 22:31:12 GMT
Sorry Rod....We can turn any Topic around to Food! (Or Drink!!!)
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Post by kangooroo on Apr 29, 2014 22:34:13 GMT
I'll have a trial with the steamer pan on Thursday and see how it works out. If it's a total disaster then there's just about time to order a pressure cooker from Amazon. If not, it's back to leaving a trail of bacon fumes around Scotland! You need a blowtorch You're not the first to suggest this. Three friends had the same idea!
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