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Post by seanrua on Feb 9, 2014 19:50:54 GMT
A bit late, but I may want one, basildog. Two problems: I'm not really available for a few days.
I'll buy one if it can be stored till I'm ready. £120 cash. If 'tis too late or impossible, never mind.
sean rua.
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Post by X on Feb 9, 2014 20:11:44 GMT
A bit late, but I may want one, basildog. Two problems: I'm not really available for a few days. I'll buy one if it can be stored till I'm ready. £120 cash. If 'tis too late or impossible, never mind. sean rua. Sorting them tomorrow so not too late if someone is your way to drop off to you ? You want flexible sort as the rigid ones are cheaper ? What are you putting it on ?
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Post by seanrua on Feb 9, 2014 20:35:55 GMT
Flexible one, basildog. Not sure about location yet.
Future plans.
I can send the money to any address you want, but won't be around for a bit. Sorry about the last minute stuff. If 'tis hassle, we can leave it for another time.
sean rua.
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Post by ross on Feb 9, 2014 22:20:24 GMT
Hi Tom - this is certainly cheap! Almost too cheap for an MPPT? OK, I could do with some advice here. I've got a system with 1 x 100w panel & a fairly decent PWM type controller. All seems ok, but I've read that MPPT controllers are far superior, and will do a better job charging the battery in winter months. So, should I change or on my small system would the benefits be negligible? But if this unit is a valid MPPT operation, £12 is almost beer money in contrast to Vern's superior but £75 unit. Advice welcome!
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Feb 9, 2014 22:44:55 GMT
Right, Bulk FMUK Order of MPPT Regulators Now!!!
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Post by edina on Feb 10, 2014 2:51:49 GMT
Hi Tom - this is certainly cheap! Almost too cheap for an MPPT? OK, I could do with some advice here. I've got a system with 1 x 100w panel & a fairly decent PWM type controller. All seems ok, but I've read that MPPT controllers are far superior, and will do a better job charging the battery in winter months. So, should I change or on my small system would the benefits be negligible? But if this unit is a valid MPPT operation, £12 is almost beer money in contrast to Vern's superior but £75 unit. Advice welcome! I bought one of these and, although it seems a decent controller, it IS NOT MPPT. It has PWM marked quite clearly on the box. As mine is for the boat and only useful as a boost for the days we don't travel, I can't really justify paying the much higher cost of a quality MPPT unit.
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Post by ross on Feb 10, 2014 19:01:52 GMT
Thanks Chris. I suspected this could be the case from the spec on ebay that says it uses PWM in one part, but that it's MPPT type somewhere else. For my small unit, if I'm having to pay out £75 plus for a decent MPPT unit to replace my PWM unit I think I'll just make do for the time being.
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Post by X on Feb 10, 2014 20:04:23 GMT
Ok all sorted money going in his bank tomorrow was hoping to do it today but by the time my people spoke to his people ! Karen said sod hanging about in town any longer It is freezing ! Should have them for the weekend any way ! I too am thinking sod it buy a cheap pwm jobbie to start with although the van is pre wired for solar it says max 120 w I think and then it runs miles to the sarjent doodarwatsit jobbie in the wardrobe then all the way back ? I am told keep the run to a minimum ? I remember wiring swimming pool lights in 12 v and could not believe how large the cables became the further you sited them from the transformer so am guessing it the same with this as in a massive loss of amps ? Some smart rrrrrrs will know !
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Post by edina on Feb 10, 2014 20:22:54 GMT
Ok all sorted money going in his bank tomorrow was hoping to do it today but by the time my people spoke to his people ! Karen said sod hanging about in town any longer It is freezing ! Should have them for the weekend any way ! I too am thinking sod it buy a cheap pwm jobbie to start with although the van is pre wired for solar it says max 120 w I think and then it runs miles to the sarjent doodarwatsit jobbie in the wardrobe then all the way back ? I am told keep the run to a minimum ? I remember wiring swimming pool lights in 12 v and could not believe how large the cables became the further you sited them from the transformer so am guessing it the same with this as in a massive loss of amps ? Some smart rrrrrrs will know ! When we fitted out our first narrow boat I was gob smacked by the size of cable needed to take 12v to the front end and then when it was all fitted and I tested it there was still a small voltage drop. I don't bother with loads of calculations now, if it's got to run any distance, I get the largest diam cable that will fit in the terminals!
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Post by seanrua on Feb 12, 2014 10:09:43 GMT
Not sure of the current situation, but please let me know ( PM, I suppose) where to send the money, if, indeed, I owe for a panel. Btw, can these here things be easily stored? Is there a fire or electrical risk?
I regret I cannot deal with the thing right now, but hope 'tis no big deal. Btw2, if anybody wants to set mine up and use for a while, please feel free to do so. All this rain has put my plans way behind.
Of course, all this assumes that Charlie did manage to get one for me. If not, no prob.
sean rua.
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Post by robmac on Feb 12, 2014 14:15:02 GMT
Hi Sean,
Just spoke to Charlie and he has got you one. I'm also having 2 and picking them up at the weekend from Ham hill. If you like, I can store yours for you until you are ready for it and then either me or another driver from my firm can drop it off when you are ready for it. (we go all over the country on deliveries). Charlie said you can sort out the payment with him online, or if you like, I can pay him and you can weigh me in when I drop it off, there's no rush.
I wouldn't send cash in the post if I were you!
(I'll store it in a black bin liner so there is no danger of it producing and lecky).
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Post by seanrua on Feb 12, 2014 16:11:34 GMT
Many thanks to you both, Robmac and Charlie! I'm in no hurry for this thing and storage will be at my risk. Like I said, I don't mind if somebody makes use of it for a while. I'm in no rush and not ready yet, but I would like to get it paid. How much was it, anyway? I budgeted on £120 and that's what I'll send.
sean rua
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Post by robmac on Feb 12, 2014 21:28:28 GMT
I think it was £118 Sean. I'll leave it to you and Charlie to sort out payment, just let me know when you are ready for the panel.
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Post by stonedaddy on Feb 12, 2014 22:34:32 GMT
Hi Tom - this is certainly cheap! Almost too cheap for an MPPT? OK, I could do with some advice here. I've got a system with 1 x 100w panel & a fairly decent PWM type controller. All seems ok, but I've read that MPPT controllers are far superior, and will do a better job charging the battery in winter months. So, should I change or on my small system would the benefits be negligible? But if this unit is a valid MPPT operation, £12 is almost beer money in contrast to Vern's superior but £75 unit. Advice welcome! Hi Ross I should imagine the MPPT controller will be the better of the two for control. But having said that I only have a very cheap PWM one fitted and as I have said I have never had a flat battery since, so unless I have any problems with it I can see no reason to change it. As the saying goes if it ain't broke don't fix it. I have two very cheap 80w panels fitted to a very cheap van so I fitted a very cheap controller to match. It even keeps the battery topped up in winter in the garden but at the moment I am cheating as I have mains hook up on as well so I can keep a little heater running to air it out in this horrid wet weather. .... Tom ....
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Post by seanrua on Feb 13, 2014 11:27:25 GMT
Charlie/Basildog:
Let me have an address and I'll send the lovve asap. I destroyed the address used for Firefox, but that worked alright.
I know I should be using PM, but I can only read or respond to that, so give us the gen via the PM and I'll arrange the bizz.
Thanks again!
sean ruA.
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Post by seanrua on Feb 17, 2014 18:52:17 GMT
OK, I'll send the money to Firefox at" K Ho", provided he agrees. He meets more folk on here than I do, so it should be easy enough to sort out.
I managed to get the address we used last time from the internet.
sean rua.
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Post by Firefox on Feb 17, 2014 19:00:37 GMT
No probs if you want to send cash to me and I will get money to Charlie or whoever paid for the panels.
I could even send money via BACS if they want it quick (well 3 days for BACS - it should and could be quicker but that's another story of our greedy bankers sitting on clearing funds for 3 days, earning £30 Million a year)
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Post by seanrua on Feb 17, 2014 20:18:59 GMT
Thanks, Firefox.
I'll get on the case tomorrow or wednesday.
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Post by X on Feb 17, 2014 20:57:53 GMT
It`s` only money stop your worrying Sean . Send it to Vern that`s fine I know you will square me up sometime so really not worried Anyway when are we going to meet you for real then you old git ?
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Post by seanrua on Feb 18, 2014 20:38:13 GMT
Fair play to ye, the old sawyer.
Things will be underway tomorrow, via Firefox.
sean rua.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 8:58:53 GMT
Only just read this thread, how many did you order? If there's any spares, I'll have one and can pay immediately through bank transfer.
Firefox, will your old solar controller that you gave me be ok?
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Feb 19, 2014 11:00:43 GMT
Jess, We only ordered 6:- Supplier would've knocked a bit more off for 10........... BUT....He's selling them BIN on Fleabay for £129.00 or the last ones that've been Auctioned have gone for £119 or £120 anyway...only £1-£2 more than We paid! If You've got a Mail Address...have a bid (up to £120.00?) If not, & You deffo want one, Me & Rob could arrange something (assuming He's still heading Norf...?) so that You have one of Ours & I'll bid for a replacement?.... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261397161119?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1426.l2648Oh, Re. Your Controller....I Dunno what Vernon gave You but 1 x 100W Panel will only put out 8A in Full Sun so anything rated above that'll be cool.....I'll be using a Maplins (16A...I think!!) one I've had knocking about for ages!!
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Post by Firefox on Feb 19, 2014 11:21:28 GMT
Controller will be OK for that panel @wvw . I found it was over voltage (16v) in very strong sunlight so I'd keep an eye on it, otherwise it works fine. It was in fact I think a Maplins 16A, the same as Glen is using above! But that panel is designed to stick flat on your roof. If you do that, your roofrack will probably cast shadows on it, which is fatal to the output. Something worth looking at before you get that kind of panel
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Feb 19, 2014 11:24:00 GMT
Crossed posts with Vernon!
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Post by Firefox on Feb 19, 2014 11:25:50 GMT
Crossed posts with Glen
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Post by Neva Aglenn on Feb 19, 2014 11:31:07 GMT
...Just like Robin Hood Vs Lt.John!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 11:04:34 GMT
Thanks for the replies and kind offers, I'm not desperate for a solar panel and happy to wait and get one at a good price off eBay. I just thought that if you'd ordered 10 intending to shift any spare in due course, I would have one.
Solar panel will go on roof rack shadows shouldn't be a big problem, no more than trees etc.
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Post by Firefox on Feb 20, 2014 13:46:31 GMT
Thanks for the replies and kind offers, I'm not desperate for a solar panel and happy to wait and get one at a good price off eBay. I just thought that if you'd ordered 10 intending to shift any spare in due course, I would have one. Solar panel will go on roof rack shadows shouldn't be a big problem, no more than trees etc. If it's on top of roof rack it will be OK, but the roof rack casting any shadows on your panels will be a big problem. They will there all the time every time, even when the sun moves round, and permanent shadows can cut the output of your panel by 70% or more not just the area where the shadows fall. This is because the solar cells are wired in a long loop and if you cut the loop it affects all the cells in the loop.
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Post by Firefox on Feb 20, 2014 14:30:21 GMT
£120 received from seanrua thanks very much Who wants this cash? Can pass to X or robmac this weekend?
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Post by robmac on Feb 20, 2014 17:44:11 GMT
£120 received from seanrua thanks very much Who wants this cash? Can pass to X or robmac this weekend? As discussed earlier Vern, tis for Basildog.
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