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Post by gaz on Nov 23, 2013 15:49:04 GMT
dont know if this is the right forum room to start this thread or even if you want this thread on your forum vernon please feel free to edit or totally delete, move ,whatever pmsl i dont want this to sound political ....cos it aint in any way portraing it that way going back to a thread on wc ...about having a pnc drop onto the mat.... the poster did not own vehicle at the time... but was gonna inform the authorities who was the KEEPER at that time i thought ...where is your compassion for your fellow man...this is after all a profit making corporation trying to bully hard earned cash out of a MAN... for those a bit puzzled you may need to youtube rob mannard and start at part one find out the difference between the MAN and THE PERSON which i was astounded by the difference in meaning... a corporation can not act on a common man but it can on a person if you ALLOW them...... also find clips that explain common Law to us simplified even i understood and now i understand i want to know more please i am not being political but i regard most on here i have conversed with as friends and all as fellow man...... i think you should have the right to some facts or not as youll be the one making your own mind up....i would like to draw to your attention to all that could be going on.... if you wanna look and understand MAN and THE PERSON please look up the difference on YouTube your life under common law is different to that if you wanna live under legal law vernon p[lease feel free to lock delete edit move thanks much love sorry forgot link www.youtube.com/watch?v=eabYMa0Ht40
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Post by gaz on Nov 23, 2013 16:18:33 GMT
not banging a drum or anything again ...but i stumbled across this when i was incensed by the bbc on theyre handling of the saville case ..bearin in mind the men at the top are earning the same or more than the pm ...outta licence payers pockets and i wanted to opt out ...and this is the minefeild i have stumbled upon ..tell ya it really opened my eyes... i HAVE made my own mind up and have come to my own DESICION but if you understand IAM not obliged to tell you but MAY if asked ...i have the choice ...and other choices in life are available pmsl
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Post by seanrua on Nov 23, 2013 22:29:27 GMT
Yes, gaz, I think the guy is on the right lines and has researched some good points. Basically, though, he has overlooked the next step of the rulers, which is to say "right, that's it, now we drop the charade of justice ,and just resort back to violence and force, which is our ultimate back-up."
My guess is that at least 80% of the WC members wouldn't even play the video and wouldn't go along with anything the man said. They'd rather spend their time writing to councils or nit-picking about lavatories, etc.
I could be wrong, of course.
Btw, I hadn't realised that Ajax was into aviation. He must have mentioned it while I was away.
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Post by gaz on Nov 23, 2013 22:55:36 GMT
found this a while ago i keep going back and reading it.but the full story ids now missing like you say maybe gettin nearer to the right lines...i have a mate who i think ...is in the process of writing to the energy minister saying in the letter his energy provider is causing hardship and hes removing the provided meter installing his own and sending monthly readings to the national grid cant wait for this one i had loads bookmarked somewhere n now cant find them..... putting your own notice of contract on the windscreen is meant to deter wardens as they dont want to enter contract with you by ticketing your vehicle ...dont know if others have seen this??? fmotl.com/FixedPenaltyChargeNotice.htmsorry sean your reference to ajax has skimmed my head mate ...eh pmsl
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Nov 24, 2013 7:28:51 GMT
You've lost me, Gaz Life: unfinished threads in a never-ending tapestry
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Post by n brown on Nov 24, 2013 8:41:23 GMT
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Post by gaz on Nov 24, 2013 11:05:46 GMT
they must be really educated in this legalease talk ive neverheard of an uglyfcukmother...does that mean an agent of a corperation ...im up to speed on the words..... do you understand...meaning to be stood over.... but nah that uglymother one is deffo new to me pmsl.... dunno where all this is going.....or how far... ive only got into it recently and the more i read n hear the more interested i become .....not meaning im wantin to go thru life payin no bills ....but i think some of this stuff can be handy in situations where you feel like authorities are really just takin me pants down
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Nov 24, 2013 11:10:27 GMT
The older I get, the more belligerent I get about the rule makers. Sometimes the chance to take their pants down and give 'em a good spanking has got to be worth a bit of effort Life: unfinished threads in a never-ending tapestry
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Post by gaz on Nov 24, 2013 11:10:31 GMT
You've lost me, Gaz Life: unfinished threads in a never-ending tapestry im over here marie.... hang on ill shout..... MARIE ......why is there no wavey smiley would have been cherry on the cake at the end tch
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Nov 24, 2013 11:11:29 GMT
Oh, right! Hang on, I'll clean me glasses... Life: unfinished threads in a never-ending tapestry
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Post by Is it spring yet, dormouse? on Nov 24, 2013 11:12:50 GMT
Is that you gaz? Would you put your pants back on {ahem! cough!!} Dear me - that's not a good sight for a holy Sunday... ! Life: unfinished threads in a never-ending tapestry
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Post by Pollik on Nov 24, 2013 11:31:21 GMT
Praps we need a political section for FMUK!
I didn't watch the whole video...I am already convinced. On facebook, I follow Occupy London, amongst others, and get links to a lot of related material. There is a lot of anger on the streets at what they see is happening.
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Post by seanrua on Nov 24, 2013 12:33:25 GMT
Yes, I agree, Polly, that there is a lot ogf anger out there on the streets, but, imo, a lot of it is unguided and misdirected. This is nothing new historically. It has been seen all over the world throughout man's time on earth.
Personally, I don't think tinkering with the status quo is worth the biscuit, bc, at the end of the day, all it does for the rulers is make them get some well-paid and misguided lackeys to take violent action to rid the midges - for that's all we are to them ( irritating, little nuicances that have to be swatted from time to time.
I did try to demonstate this over on WC, but all to no avail. I showed that, when the well is rotten and toxic, painting the pump does NOT cleanse the water. This is as clear to me as the morning sun, and, just as seeing a truck with WC stickers plastered all over it is not going to brighten my day any, I do not believe that Robert Arthur Menard will succeed without mass support. For there to be mass support, as Robert rightly points out, there has to be a basic understanding of what's actually going down. In the main, i find that most of us find it too painful to really delve and see, so we just accept the crap the way it is. Not a totally negative and gloomy scenario: but without proper Principles and Beliefs, stickers and counter-notices ain't never going to work, imo. 'Tis no more than tweaking and tinkering. There is a time and place for tinkering, eg,, when the kettle's got a leak in it, BUT, when the whole well is rotten, 'tis time to sink a new one, based on the right strata.
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jeangenie,
a) I was on WC for long enough. After the first month, I realized that i was never going to get a straight helpful answer from most of them ( present company on this site excepted) but only derision and piss-taking. I stopped asking, except down in the dungeon in the OFF Topic section.
b) I also decided that, though i did try at first, I was not going to tell them anything anymore. Channa wasn't happy about this - seeing it as some sort of throwing in the towel ( ie defeat by giving up). Finally, a couple of their vociferous spokespersons moreorless told me to shut up, so I decided to stop posting, as I could tell that this was the majority view on there.
It was interesting and an eye-opener for me to see how the settled middleclasses look at life, but there was no more to be gained from folk who just regurgitate D Mail articles that are NEVER updated to show the full story or outcome.
WC fixation? I regret to say that they are stepping on my toes and crowding my space every bit as much as they feel we do for them. I wish now that they had never ventured out of Skegness or Scarborough or wherever it is they hail from. Sorry to say that, but 'tis my true feeling. They are going about messing things up for everybody - be he local resident or traveller, imo. OJ, that's not the way they see things, I know.
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gaz,
keep looking into it, but don't get fixated. You could end up like me!
sean rua.
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Post by Pollik on Nov 24, 2013 12:48:32 GMT
We're all doomed, Captain Mainwaring!
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Post by gaz on Nov 24, 2013 15:16:29 GMT
Is that you gaz? Would you put your pants back on {ahem! cough!!} Dear me - that's not a good sight for a holy Sunday... ! Life: unfinished threads in a never-ending tapestry but i have my holey boxers n holey socks and my bum which is also....... pert
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Post by gaz on Nov 24, 2013 15:23:36 GMT
im no were near up to speed on this thing yet ...but everyday im learning not nescesarily to use in everyday life but it does give you the bigger picture and what theryre words mean and why they use them the way they do ...im no genuis but these LAWS we must abide by ,theyve wrapped them up in words within words and i clearly cannot understand them so really all im doing is agreeing to be punished ...but i dont know why if i can come across a lawfull clue on how to protect myself .....well wouldnt you ...there is SOME truth in what these blokes are telling us ..
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Post by n brown on Nov 24, 2013 19:39:34 GMT
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Post by gaz on Nov 24, 2013 20:16:52 GMT
very very true if ya wanna go down that line.... but there are other ways to do stop them knocking on your door ie PAY UP ...YOUVE BEEN WARNED (hell thats croppin up a lot lately where have i seen that before? ) nice easy one really almost felt sorry for the poor sap
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Post by Pollik on Nov 24, 2013 20:51:37 GMT
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Post by Pollik on Nov 24, 2013 21:02:56 GMT
The TV Licence people have a reputation for misrepresenting, lying and harrassing. One of the more common complaints is that they disregard communications telling them that you do not have TV set and that you have no legal need of a TV licence - they still continue to send increasingly aggressive "reminders". Because of this, and people getting tired and fed up of the harrassment, There are quite a few websites chronicling encounters with TVLC, such as this one www.weeklygripe.co.uk/a523.asp
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Post by seanrua on Nov 24, 2013 22:24:52 GMT
Bullying tactics seem as widespread as they were said to be in medieval times, imo. The main difference is that things are couched in pseudo=democratic terms nowadays. Much of it(especially politics0 is a massive game of bluff. Powers will get away with whatever they can.
Even on Wc some guy has now cast doubt on whether these here TRO things actually exist. Well, good for him, but, imo, the longterm trend will be that parking places, especially for ICVs ,will become scarcer and scarcer. So, let folk do their King Canute act if they wish, but let others consider the likely consequences.
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gaz,
re Ajax.
That is my name for a very prominent poster on WC. Today, he has been involved in one of the worst threads ever on the internet, imo, ( the one about the MH full of dogs that was sadly smashed into by a lorry on the M40).
The other day, a poster on there was asking him about aviation fuel. That's why I was wondering had he been involved with aeroplanes.
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